You can make Styles from SMF using
EMC Style Works Universal easily.....works pretty good with some tweaking...

The Roland G70 and E80 can make styles from midifiles without using EMC styleworks.


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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com

George thats good to know ...I wasnt aware of that nice Roland feature!

Hi George,
in your opinion, are styles from e80 & g70 completely interchangeable , or will they need tweaking if you use a G70 style on an E80. Reason I'm asking is the Technote Roland styles card I'm interested in , is actually for the G70.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by George Kaye:
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Hi Bebop,
you could probably even recreate some of your favourite Yammie styles using omb to create a midifile of the yammie style & then use "midi to style" function in the Roland to recreate the style in roland format.
I used to use this method for creating styles for my kn7.
Best part is, you possibly won't have as many hassles as I did with incompatible drum mapping,ie if I'm not miskaken, Roland may have some xg mapped drum kits?? Provided these kits can be used in styles, it should make things easier.

I couldn't find the drum maps & instrument listings in the manual I downloaded..

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by BEBOP:
[B]I am pretty sure I was told you can make styles from the midi files you play in this keyboard.

If you have version 3.0 in a G70 then there is complete compatability according to my Roland Rep. I hadn't decided if I was going to order any E80's only because of how big this keyboard is. It's the widest arranger keyboard I've ever seen and if I put in on display at my store there would be no way I can have any other keyboards on top of it because you would never be able to see the E80's display because of how far back it is.
However, after much consideration, I think I will put a couple in my store. I found a place near my PA gear where I can place the E80 by itself and it should be OK. I like the way the E80 sounds, as I've liked the G70, but the look didn't excite me enough to just go ahead and buy them when I was given a sales presentation by Travis Mitchell, my Roland CK rep. I have a store which is just 20 feet wide and with all the arranger and non arranger keyboards I sell and have on display, it is very important to me to display products as visibly and easy to demo as possible and the E80 made me crazy trying to find a spot appropriate in my store.


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George Kaye
Kaye's Music Scene
Reseda, California
818-881-5566
www.kayesmusicscene.com

George what did you think of the E80 Speaker system?

The main problem going from Yamaha to Roland are the Mega voices. Anything relatively recent uses these extensively in the styles, and there just is NO decent Roland equivalent. If you use Roland's styles for Roland guitar patches, it's OK, and you've got the Guitar Mode, but (IMO) there is nothing on the Roland that can quite get the Mega Voice guitar sounds.

G70 to E80 is mostly transparent, but the other way round can be problematic. Some drum sounds and time-sliced 'phrases' just can't be easily duplicated.

But basically, if you have a Yamaha style that DOESN'T use Mega voices, the Roland Makeup (style/song header editing) Tools are the easiest to optimize a non-native style to work with the voices and drumkits.

And finally.... personally, I don't like many 'song-styles', or styles made from commercial SMFs. I just find them too recognizable, or a bit 'jerky' because there is rarely four bars on the same chord in each section to get a good groove going. Not to mention four bars of major, minor and seventh chords, to provide variation. Not to mention a variety of intros and outros, break/fills, etc..

There's a LOT more to making a decent, easily usable style than grabbing a few bars of an SMF (otherwise, we'd ALL be doing it!)....

I was thinking. Why dont we find the email address for the yamaha, korg, roland style programmers and write to them directly so that they at least are aware that there is a greater need for more for example american styles ?

Steve Mcnally is the styleprogrammer for Korg. I am sure i can find his email address.

Its all about money baby $$$$$

They ain't stupid they know what they're doing dont be fooled

But its worth a try.....