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#220814 - 01/16/07 11:19 AM Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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Hi people!
I have Yamaha DGX-200 and I want to buy some new arranger. I want play it only at home maybe sometimes later I go outside with it...
I have tried only yamaha psr-1500. So I dont know how roland sounds live.

thx!!!

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#220815 - 01/16/07 01:23 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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they seem both very good,both the yamaha and the roland display notation and have many features. I would go for the E-50, I think it has the sounds of the Roland XV modules....great sounds. Also,the e-50 features even a touch screen. In the UK the E-50 can be found for £ 588,which is even cheaper than the PSR1500

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#220816 - 01/16/07 03:04 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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I can tell you the Yamaha has an easy to operate keyboard.

I don't know about the E-50. Can someone tell me how you pick solo voices? Is it quick and easy as on the Yamaha or is it the old press a few buttons and scroll around til you find what you want? Is there registration memory buttons. How do you choose styles?

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#220817 - 01/16/07 03:35 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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best thing to do is to download the manual of both keyboards. The E-50 touch-screen should be even easier to operate than the PSR1500...in any case,the Roland's sound would make it an hard contender

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#220818 - 01/16/07 09:18 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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andre_
is a big difference between the two. IMO, the E50 styles and sounds are very advanced and modern, while psr1500 is after all 2-3 years old. now, of course, that depends also if you like batter the yamaha styles or roland's. but i can tell you, after playing both, i would pick E50 at any time!

scott_
to change/choose a sound on E60 is a two step thing. first, press the section (left, right1, right2) button and then press the sound family button. the last sound you used from that family is selected, and at the same time the screen displays 10 sounds (= one page). it's very easy to pick a sound or another page, because you just press what you see on the screen - is very handy!
the styles are about the same: press a family button, and the displays shows 10 styles to pick from or the other pages to go to.
for me, i think E50 OS is about as simple to use as yamaha's psr. a little bit more complicated with the user programs / registry, but not a big deal.
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#220819 - 01/17/07 12:16 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Hi andre,
I concur with the observations made both by santantoni and adimatis regarding the o/s and features,having had aTyros 2 I now have the Roland E80 coupled to my Psr3000 and find navigation even on the fly is as straight forward as Yamaha, apart from as already stated the user programmes and file system which does take some getting use to.It is important that you give both boards a through audition as the sounds and styles on both boards are good,it is only now some three months after purchase of my E80 that for me I know my choice was the right one.The Roland and Yamaha are really to different animals and is does take time to really appreciate and enjoy what both boards can offer,In the end it will come down to, what board will fulfil your musical needs.
Best Regards Gilbert

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#220820 - 01/17/07 04:20 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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thanks friends!!!
i have question about polyphony. roland 64 and yamaha has 96... isnt 64 small???

thanks

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#220821 - 01/17/07 04:27 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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For me the Yamaha styles sound more natural, but this is very personal. I would go with PSR-S500 probably myself.

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#220822 - 01/17/07 05:30 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Quote:
Originally posted by RPdigital:
For me the Yamaha styles sound more natural, but this is very personal. I would go with PSR-S500 probably myself.


That's a good suggestion. Unless you are getting a really good deal on the PSR1500, I would compare the new Roland E50 with the new Yamaha PSR-S700.
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#220823 - 01/17/07 07:57 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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and when come psr-s700 ???

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#220824 - 01/17/07 09:48 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Quote:
Originally posted by andre159:
and when come psr-s700 ???


If it is demoed at the Namm show, then maybe out by the summer.
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#220825 - 01/17/07 11:48 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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where can i find E-50 manual please???

thanks

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#220826 - 01/17/07 11:58 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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oh ...i found manual...

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#220827 - 01/17/07 03:27 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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A manual, without playing the keyboard in person, only demonstrates how well the manual is written (mind you, that alone is something that just about ALL manufacturers could easily improve!).

Try not to be too impatient, and wait until you have tried both choices (and anything else you can lay your hands on!), and don't trust anything you read on a forum (except me!)

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#220828 - 01/17/07 09:19 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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andre_
if you can not give a try to both, you can be brave and asimilate as much info as you can, listen to all demos available, ask questions, surf the internet, watch pictures...

eventualy, you'll know the keyboards good enought to have a general idea. after that, just go for it!
oh, should i say also that this worked for ME. for many others, it would be just crazy ordering without trying.

diki_
the manuals are improuvable, but at least roland's and korg's are a little bit more professionaly put in the page. psr3000's manual i really did not find it reliable.
i think korg pa's manual was the best written, explaining what is in every page from menu and how to get some things done...
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#220829 - 01/17/07 09:43 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Hi Andre,
try and play both before you decide. Roland & Yamaha styles sound different.
Try & pick the one with the type of styles that suit you best.

I have a psr1500 & a Ketron SD1+. Even though the Ketron is superior soundwise, I personally find yamaha styles are more suitable for the type of music I like to play..

Roland may suit you better.

Yamaha is due for new lower end models.

best wishes
Rikki


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#220830 - 01/18/07 06:14 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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Iwant to try roland but in my small country isnt any shop who has it... all what i can hear are demos...

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#220831 - 01/18/07 06:18 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Stick with Yamaha you wont go wrong..

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#220832 - 01/18/07 01:35 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Diki is correct:

Don't trust anyone's opinion on the forum. They may be high as a kite on a product one week and sell it the next That I can say from experience.

Go with your own personal tastes and good luck.

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#220833 - 01/18/07 03:09 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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Hi Andre,
maybe another thing to consider is being able to get a keyboard serviced ( if heaven forbid something should go wrong), not an issue if either of the brands are not available in your country.

Another question, you mentioned in your original post something about going outside to play?? did you mean via Battery Power ( like the DGX has??) The more expensive keyboards don't run on batteries, you may need to check this option if it's important to you. Imay have misunderstood what you meant.

best wishes
Rikki

Quote:
Originally posted by andre159:
Iwant to try roland but in my small country isnt any shop who has it... all what i can hear are demos...
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#220834 - 01/19/07 05:23 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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can anyone send me some sound(sax, guitars...) and styles examples of e-50??? maybe then i can decide...

andre159@post.sk

thanks



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#220835 - 01/21/07 05:39 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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I was not suggesting to download the manual of a keyboard,so that you would choose basing yourself on the manual. I meant that you download all the manuals of both keyboards,and compare the features. Compare the demos,everything. Just compare what you can.
You should try both boards if you can,but sometimes you can't. As I live in the UK and I can find an E-50 for £ 588 and a Yamaha psr-1500 for £ 750,I would have no particular reason to choose the Yamaha. (after hearing them both on demo) Then again,of course it's only a preference,and of course you should try both if you can.
The touchscreen on the Roland seems far more intuitive to me.
I just happen to prefer Roland for sounds. True,you get less poliphony (64 notes) but by all means that's not small...I had a Roland xp-80 had 64 notes of poliphony,a fully fledged synthethyzer(superior to arranger keyboards,-in matter of synth sounds and sound editing,not superior to everything-),and I assure you that I used to do quite a bit of sequencing,build complex synth sounds (multilayering etc) and i never runned out of polyphony. You could say that 64 notes of poliphony is fairly safe,they will not be taken up by a few tracks on the sequencer. Then again the Yamaha is excellent too,I am sure it's no piece of crap

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#220836 - 01/21/07 09:09 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
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andre_
give me your email address and tell me what sounds/styles would you like to hear from E50.
i can record a 3 minutes demo for you with whatever you need to hear!
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#220837 - 01/21/07 10:44 PM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
adimatis Offline
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andre_
give me your email address and tell me what sounds/styles would you like to hear from E50.
i can record a 3 minutes demo for you with whatever you need to hear!
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#220838 - 01/22/07 04:30 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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thanks adimatis!
I want to hear the best sounds... i dont know witch their are named...some epianos, acoustic and electric(overdrive and clean) guitars, some saxophones(tenor,soprano),trumpet,flute.
some styles from latin and jazz category...
I hope it can be possible...
my mail is andre159@post.sk

thanks

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#220839 - 01/25/07 06:17 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
adimatis Offline
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hey andre!
just red your post. seems like will be longer than 3 minutes demo.

i'll try to make it before this weekend!
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#220840 - 01/25/07 06:57 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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thanks

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#220841 - 01/25/07 11:13 AM Re: Roland E-50 or Yamaha PSR-1500
andre159 Offline
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adimatis,
I finally decided that I go for PSR-S500. It is cheaper way and it has fantastic sound and style quality, so you dont have to record that examples of roland.
thanks

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