SZ "pros" recommend.........

Let's see. Joey D, Tony Monaco, Barbara D, Eddie Landsberg, and probably every other "real" organ player out there.

chas

Chas, along the same lines...most of us can't listen to more than 3 hours of the organ greats...

Well for now I dont see....
Joey D, Tony Monaco, Barbara D, Eddie Landsberg, and probably every other "real" organ player out there, playing a C1 so there must be a reason...could it be Drawbars, or? Who knows, Maybe Nord will incorporate them in the future in some of their models.....meanwhile if someone likes playing Nord units kudos to them if it makes them happy. There are no rules, just opinions.

and...Matthew Fisher, Booker T, Al Kooper, Benmont Tench, Doug Riley, Keith Emerson, Rick Wright, Tony Banks, Rick Wakeman, Jon Lord...

Fran, I'm not trying to escalate this little discussion. I just don't think "fun factor" or listening endurance has anything to do with evaluating a legitimate musical instrument. I would also question the legitimacy of any opinion by anyone other than a bona fide organ player. Playing the organ and playing a few organ licks on a muti-purpose synth are two different things. There isn't an organ player alive that would be satisfied with one manual. If you say different, you are 1. not an organ player, and 2. not qualified to speak for one.

I'm not pushing the C1 or any other keyboard, but sometimes I just get fed up with listening to guys spewing a bunch of crap under the guise of "expertise". If the organ is not going to be your primary instrument, then you probably don't need a stand-alone, dual-manual, organ of any type. A good quality synth (or arranger) with good organ voices would probably be a much better choice. Since this is an arranger forum, it's makes sense that few on this board are using the organ as a primary KB (me and Russ MAY be the only ones).

BTW, the C1 makes a really lousy controller for reasons I'd be happy to share with anyone contemplating buying one and using it for that purpose. I bought a SonicCell for exactly that purpose but it just ain't happening. I'll keep it just to have a few Roland sounds in the studio but...... I usually tell folks to "try before you buy". I shoulda' followed my own advice. Oh yeah, we (Eagle fans are for life) almost upset those darn Patriots, damn, damn, damn. Next time.

chas

Oh yeah......

Well Donny, the post you're referencing doesn't say anything about a C1, just organs or organ music in general. But I'm glad you were able to spin it in such a way as to get in a C1 dig. BTW, Eddie DOES play a C1 (and loves it). Most of the top tier players play a "real" B3, because they can afford to. Those who have to move their own and would have to shell out a month's salary to keep one maintained, prefer something less uh, demanding. But hey, keep sniping away; you may have noticed that nearly everyone without an exterior motive thinks that it is a great instrument and a great value. Of course, I can see how the absense of MP3 board might diminish it in your view.

Oh, BTW. The Hammonds only have midi out while the C1 has midi in and out, so if you've got some nice organ SMF's, you may have no choice but to get a C1.....even if I also own one.

Your buddy,

chas

whoops......

Chas, you missed my point...I am not knocking the Hammond or any organ....In fact I know the B3 is the best [to me]..As you may already know..I started out selling and demo..the Hammond in the mid 60's..

My point can be summed up as a need to be more diversified...as an arranger does..

I like Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Brenda Lee [shh], Jimmy Smith, Herbie Hancock....but after 3 hours I also am tired of listening to any single artist....likewise , just a B3....

I guess this is an issue involving whether we're talking generalists or specialists. I can see that arranger players might feel limited by the capacities of a C-1, B-3...whatever. But, there are those who don't like Frank, Dean or Brenda, but think Jimmy and others are "killers". The preferences also involve, again, the difference between musicians and entertainers. Purists wouldn't want Jack McDuff playing an arranger, and would listen to him do what he does forever.

People wanting to be entertained would tire easily listening to B-3 only, no matter who played it. Add jazz elitists on one end and people who are mostly interested in the show/entertainment factor to the mix to further confuse the issue.

Different strokes, I guess.


Regards,


Russ