o3bor..Yes I did, and the "new" kits are great..They are very much different than the kits you mentioned to compare..I think you wanted me to compare to the V-kits on the G70..

I think they were designed to be different..These "new" drum kits..do not have the same realistic sound when compared to the velocity controlled drums on the G70..The E-60 "new" kits get louder as the velocity is increased, but do not have the tonal changes the G70 V-drums offer..

I am sure this in part are larger[multi] samples within the G70..

I like the "new" drum kits..they are done well, but do not have the same full dynamics of the G70 V-drums..

Very noticeable on the "new" kits..are the extended cymbal samples[most likely looped]..They work great, but could be a tad too long in situations..I also like the way the G70 re-triggers when striking these cymbals while they are ringing,,,another benefit of velocity switching..

But over all I do agree the E-60 is a great drum kit instrument..like it's big brother..

Let me take back part of my statement..about the tonal changes via velocity..The E-60 definitely does change...maybe just a little different than the G70...I very much like the "new" kits..

[This message has been edited by Fran Carango (edited 01-14-2008).]

Fran great reviews....cant wait to get my hands on that E60 tomorrow at your studio...after breakfast

Oh Donny, be careful. Fran is a sly one and he'll have you buying George's other E-60 before you know it. Seriously, why aren't there any out there? This sounds like a great board for those (?like me?) who don't want the bulk of the G70 and would also like speakers. We need deals!!!


...anyone interested in a LN PSR3000?

Cassp that 3k should be a cinch to sell asap.....then you can pick up a E60 I'm sure....maybe even Frans, he's had it too long already

It's nice to see the E-60 work out so well for you, Fran, but I have this gut feeling that you won't be keeping it too long.

I don't mean this in a negative way, but I believe it is too similar to the G70, and because it doesn't really have more than the latter, there is really nothing much to explore beyond what you've already achieved on the G70.


I think it will be just a passing fancy like the previous keyboards, and once the honeymoon of a "new" instrument has passed, you will sell it and try something else with new things to explore....nothing wrong with that.

In any case, it is cool that it will serve as a substitute for the G70 on certain gigs...definitely lighter and easier to manage and that's got to count for something.

All the best of luck with it.

Ian

Every hour that goes by..this E-60 is securing a home here with me..The E-60 is one of the most overlooked [maybe because we can't find them] keyboards on the market..

How good is the E-60...maybe it would have been enough keyboard to make me keep over my trusted G1000...

For those that don't know...that is a stamp of approval

In fact another few days and the E-60 will become..."not available"...Sorry Cass

I can not think of another board, that meets as many needs for me..than the E-60..and I am talking about the other boards at twice the price..not the PA800, not the Tyros2, not the SD series..while all of these are great boards..the E-60 allows me the benefit of what makes the G70 great..
All the goodies in my back up/second board..

I can not recommend this board enough to those that want a Roland arranger..in a lighter package, without too many compromises..

[This message has been edited by Fran Carango (edited 01-14-2008).]

Hey, Fran, that's cool...nice to see someone so happy with a purchase.

Have fun.

Ian

Ian, you know what it is?

The keyboard surpassed my expectations...

Yes, Fran, sometimes that happens, and when it does, it takes a lot of pressure away from looking to find that certain instrument.

I know Cassp will be pleased at your review, and will make buying one less of a game of chance.

I tried an E-60 for most of an afternoon, whilst on tour in Newfoundland(only dealer in my territory that had one!) and I found it a great sounding instrument, and MUCH lighter than it's appearance led you to believe.

But, does that mean you aren't going to try any more "toys"?

Ian

Are you kidding......