When I had considered the S900, I noticed the size is a bit bigger than the 3000, not really that much smaller than the Tyros 2, which meant I couldn't use the case I used on the 2000 and 3000 and would have to use the case I use for the Tyros 2. So, the idea of it being any easier to move around and fit into a car isn't really true.

I haven't yet played the S900 yet, I bet it's a killer. But, I know how much I would miss the 3-layered voices and touch sensitivity. Once you're hooked on that, it's really tough to go back. I'm thinking the organ sounds will be different between the 2 also, it was very noticable between the 3000 and Tyros 1, so I'm just guessing on this. It depends what is important to each player.

Scott

zuki

I see you're interested in a filing system. The article I wrote on this link is the fastest way to get from one song to another. When the ending to one song finishes, I can already have selected the next song and start it immediately after the preceding song.

With this system it allows me to change quickly on the fly according to the crowd that's there responding to you.
http://www.psrtutorial.com/Resources/Articles/organize.html

Very interesting Scott - 900 vs T2:

1. 3 layer voices would be awesome
2. Better organs would be great
3. Improved keybed
4. Optional hard drive
5. About the same weight
6. Since I use text (until I finally memorize the words), I'd like the popup
7. Hopefully a deeper piano
8. And much more probably?

hmmm...maybe I'll sell both 900s for a T2

Thanks Scott. I'll read it again when I'm not so tired Lots of info there. I'd really like a hard drive and am really contemplating a T2.

zuki

Buying a S900 for a back up when you have a Tyros 2 is a good idea. But comparing a S900 to the Tyros 2 is not a great idea. I have both sitting side by side playing the same midi file or a style or live playing. The Tyros 2 has a much richer tone – I say it has class –
The Tyros2 is the one I sold my friend and the S900 belongs to me.

A N D I just love my S900, it does almost everything the Ty2 does – except it’s much cheaper -- but it’s still no Tyros 2.

John C.

Zuki, the T2 isn't any easier to transport than the T1...I know, I hauled one around for six months...no comparison to the S900 IMO.

The organs in the S900, IMO, sound the same as the Tyros2, with the exception of the SA organs in the latter which the former does not have.

The S900's SA voices, also in my opinion, sound the same as Tyros2...there are not as many, and they lack the T2's aftertouch, but, if I remember correctly, my sources at Yamaha said they were the same samples.

The Tyros2 has a better piano (a bit more full) than the S900, but the E.Pianos seem to be the same.

Of course, you're already aware of the T2's FSX keyboard, which is more weighted than the S900's, and has aftertouch...best feeling arranger keyboard around.

Since the T3 is just around the corner(well, not quite...but soon) the Tyros2 will be less expensive when the former is released.

There should also be a few second hand T2s available.

Just trying to be helpful...good luck with whatever way you choose.

Ian

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Hi John

That is one of the best and most sensible explanations I have seen on this subject. To me this is most important to the people considering purchasing keyboards, many of them lurkers. They trust and value our judgement. I have always been very concerned of the one's that go over and over that the 3000 is identical to the Tyros 1 and the S900 is the same as the Tyros 2. This is sending out the wrong message to those looking for the instrument that is best for them.

It all depends on the individuals needs, and while it's best if one can try one out first, in some cases that's not possible. That is why our responses on this subject are so important.

My 2 cents worth

Hi Ian

I hope to try out an S900 soon. Until then, I am wondering about the drawbar organs. I remember the difference between the Tyros and PSR and it was a big difference for someone who likes to use those kind of sounds. Am wondering what the case is between the T2 and 900 in your opinion.

Otherwise, for the rest, I'll have to see for myself what the voices with the same names sound like compared to each other.

Weren't the same voices used on the 3000 and the Tyros 1 supposed to be the same samples too? But yet they sounded different. I compared this with other people and they agreed on this difference. Make's you wonder how much difference is between peoples hearing ability and other factors really. A very subjective subject

zuki,

Still havn't recieved an Email from you yet. Try sending it to keyboard@bcpl.net

Gary

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Scott, depending on how seriously you want those drawbaar sounds, you may want to consider a Roland VK8m or a Hammond XM2. IMHO these are the best two non-keyboard clones. You could easily midi it your keyboard and bring it in and out as desired with the volume knob or an expression pedal. FWIW