Hi Mike,
actually being able to set up the fills is a very handy function. There's 14 of them.
You can set up a fill to step thru the variations increasing or decreasing.
You can set it up to go to a particular variation alternate between two of them etc . If you leave it set off, it self fills.

Actually had 8 variations on the KN7, & to me a lot of those didn't really work.

Must admit 8 fills & a break would be brilliant on the PA. haahaa ( no such luck)

One way to give a bit of extra variety is to just use a pad as a drum fill.

best wishes
Rikki

[QUOTE]Originally posted by keybplayer:
[B] The author also noted that there is about a half dozen ways to edit the fill/variation feature, altering them to ones own preference and thereby influencing
and predicting how a fill is used in context with the variations within the Style backing. Translation: "There apparently is still a glitch in the factory built-in Style fill-in/variation feature on the Pa2xPRO but a person is able to edit and alter the factory settings and thereby hopefully reduce or eliminate the anomaly when activating a fill-in while transitioning between variation(s)."

Thanks Mike for the report. I'm really excited about getting my 800 and using its strengths. Life is good with music

Whilst I do I agree that the PA2XPro is in a "class by itself"...so are the Yamaha Tyros2 (best 61-note arranger) and the Roland G70 (best 76-note arranger), it's my opinion the PA2XPro seems to slip somewhere between them.

The fact that the style fills on the PA2XPro are still problematic (glitchy?) is not progress, and the clickity clackity (and "quivering"?) keyboard that didn't bode favorably with the "qualified" reviewer, is also a step back.

"Tunderin' Toadstools, Mick, she sounds just like me old Underwood".

I'm sure the PA2XPro will find a place in the hearts and on the keyboard stands of numerous people....but it is far from "King of arrangers"...it's just another King in a different suit.

Ian

I'm sort of confused.. aren't the style composition functions and Guitar modes available now in the PA800? The Keyboard mag review makes it sound like this is something new and only available in the Pa2xpro?

Can someone enlighten me?

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Al Giordano
http://www.arrangerworld.com


Tyros 2, Yamaha P-250, Korg Triton Extreme 76, Roland VK8-M, DW Collectors Series Drums, Roland SPD-S.

The more i hear about peoples reviews of the PA2X the more i have to smile to myself about the great marketing trick korg has done on the buying public.

The only thing that was mentioned in the article that is differnt to the PA1X is the guitar mode. Where were they when the PA1X emerged ? How come the Tyros was outselling the PA series before when virtually the same functionality exists in the new "king" PA2X ? Some one should be looking at where the reviewer gets their advertising revenue from becuase the trumpeting of these "new " features is just laughable.

See this is how manufacturers make their money. They rely upon people not digging into their instruments so that they can sell them the same instrument with a new gloss again. Absolutely genius.....

I currently have a Tyros 2 and a Pa2XPro sitting side by side. I turned the volume right down on both of them and played the keys softly, heavily, and in staccato fashion. The noise from the Tyros was very similar to that on the Pa2XPro. If anything the Tyros had a thud at the end of the key stroke which was not present on the Pa2X. I don't see or hear any quivering on either, the keys come right back to where they should be.

I had never noticed the noise on the Tyros before even when playing quietly in church. IMHO, this is a non-issue on both keyboards.

Graham

Usually all keyboards make a little sound when played in the quiet, although my PSR-S900's are pretty silent...perhaps the PA2XPro the reviewer was playing was an early production model....who knows?

How about the PA2XPro's style fills Graham....were they glitchy? Smooth?

Ian

Hi Al,
maybe the reviewer hasn't played the PA800.haahaa
Yes Guitar mode, & the same style creation/playing functions etc are on both the PA800 & The PA2X as far as I'm aware.

best wishes
rikki
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kbrkr:
[B]I'm sort of confused.. aren't the style composition functions and Guitar modes available now in the PA800?

Ian, so far the fills seem fine. I have noticed an increase in volume on the simple (3) ending and a long sustain of the lower note. Seems unusual, to me at the moment.

Graham

Couldn't agree more. This applies to our self-appointed experts, as well, who went gaa gaa (ga-ga?) over the PA800 although it was basically a scaled-down PA1x with a couple of minor enhancements and basically the same styles (after the free downloadable upgrade to the PA1x). As usual, all the ballyhoo lasted the usual 3-6 months it took to switch arrangers yet again. When will the 'flock' learn? Speaking of that, I'd better get the 'flock' out of here before the missiles start flying.

chas