Any word on when we can expect the new Yamaha flagship?

I'm gettin' a little antsy, they do seem to be taking their time. How long is it normally from one model to the next? Maybe some of the dealers with connections to Yamaha could shed a little light?

Way into next year & beyond if at all is what Im hearing. Tyros 2 is still selling too well world wide.

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Hearing from who?

I shouldnt have said anything....
just consider it a rumor.

Ian , your input is needed

Donny , yes the T-2 is selling very well , however it is still old for a KB.

It`s getting very hard to find IDE HD`s and PC-133 ram.

Or is my google broke !!

Gary 

PS:
It could very well be the last Tyros , maybe something different ?

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You guys know how long I'be been around here and my prediction is that we will have a replacement by the end of 2008! Let's see if I'm right. I've been pretty good over the years.

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Reseda, California
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As you guys know, I'm pretty unimpressed with some of the sounds on the Yamaha - mainly the drums and bass. I've decided that the disadvantages of the Korg are too much for me to handle, so I'm considering to:

1) wait for the new Yamaha T3, or
2) wait for the new Motif Rack XS to use as a voice module (they say it should be out any time now), or
3) not to wait at all and use the Motif Rack ES

Chony

Maybe, if it's just Bass and Drums that disappoint, a couple of modules from another manufacturer would give a better change of timbre than another from the same?

I've heard of some using Roland TD-series drum modules on arrangers, for that G70 'live drum' sound (it's what's built-in to a Roland G70/E80) and there ARE some bass sounds built in to those... Perhaps they might suit you enough if added alongside the Yamaha basses.

Having auditioned MotifES and XS, I must say I thought their contemporary drumkits to be VERY good, but I wasn't as impressed with their acoustic kits as much as the TD-type G70 sounds... What type of drum sounds are you primarily looking for?

October this year. 2 reasons. They release a new tyros every third october..and cos its my birthday month

Actually I use the TD-12 module (I have the TD-12 drum kit and just take the brain on dance jobs with me.) Before that I used the TD-6.

However, although the Roland TDs are AMAZING for playing electric drums, I can't say the same for their use as a module. The bass drum for example sounds too natural - almost like a live drum kit in a room, instead of giving it the real 'Kick-In-The-Chest' dance sound that actually the Yamaha is quite good at.

Another problem is that there is a slightly noticeable latency (the time it takes from receiving the signal to playing it) which dirties the sound a little.

Chony

Hi Chony
Try the Ketron SD2 module as it has some great sounds and drum loops, as well as being reasonably priced. (Just remember it has no controls and so will rely totally on your controller keyboard)

Bill

Chony,
That's a great idea!!

I also own the Roland TD-12 and often gig with them as a drummer. You are right, they sound awesome. Have you purchased the Vexpressions patches for the TD-12? They make the stock drum patches that come with the TD12 sound like toy drums.

I'll say it again, I think you should go and try the Pa2xpro, it is such a nice keyboard.

Al





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Al Giordano
http://www.arrangerworld.com


Tyros 2, Korg Pa2xpro, Roland VK8-M, DW Collectors Series Drums, Roland TD-12 Vdrums, Roland SPD-S.

I didn't even know it was possible to buy things for the TD 12. Where would you install it anyways?

Please let me know what my options for expandibility are. Also are there any internet forums for the Roland TD drums? I have lots of questions!

Thanks
Chony

Hi Chony,
haven't got a clue what this module is, but have you tried midiing it to your T2??

I don't think the T2 would make a suitable controller because of the way it handles internal & external tracks.

best wishes
rikki

Yes Rikki,

I just send track 10 with no program changes to the module, and the module plays consistently. It works without a problem except for a small latency.

Chony

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Hey Ian, that should be illegal! You can't just say September and sign off!

Want to drop a hint of where you got your info?

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Look to the sky... That's where a lot of us get this information (or Ian has some of those cheap Canadian drugs we all get smuggled across the border because our own government doesn't think we should negotiate with bloodsucking drug companies!)

Hope the recovery is going well, BTW, Ian...

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Well, I hope to Dear G-d, that they have put in amazing drum and bass samples, in addition to lots and lots of great rock and dance beats.

I can handle waiting until September to see if I'm going to make the switch to Korg...

Chony

Chony dont wish too hard in their eyes drums & bass are just fine judging by previous models without much change.....just like the very under par Vocalizer, & substandard MFD that doesn't retain many import and parameters...coupled with a needed improved key-bed.... They have many things that are really super but another rehash will definitly deter me to shop elsewhere.

Maybe ... but I choose to dream.

I wish there was someone in Yamaha I could call about this.

Chony thats another dream ....

You are a very successful musician thus far & you got there using the gear you have now ....may I ask what you expect to achieve with something new & unproven...& will it change your overall sound and success in the future that much to warrant it, or is it more personal satisfaction?

Hi Chony,
how do you then stop the T2 drums playing the same track as the midi module??

Are you doing this with styles ie the the T2 plays all the other instruments bass & 5 accomp tracks & module is the soundsource for the drums??

I tried for days to figure out a way where the psr would play the bass & other 5 instrument style tracks, & my sd2 module would be the soundsource for the drums, but I had no luck.
The sd2 had to either be the soundsource for all the accomp. tracks or none.
I'm hoping I missed a something.

best wishes
Rikki

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I am in an extremely competitive market in New York. Thank G-d, I have always been busy, but lately, I am from the top choices when it comes to a wedding band.

I attribute it to a number of things:
- I recently invested over $20G on a killer sound system. My tops alone are $4G a pop (Turbosound NUQ DP15s)
- I've been working on punchier styles
- I've started using the Roland Drum module

- Also, I just bought a Roland TD-12 drum kit and am hiring drummers to make me additional styles.

However I do get comments that my main competition has more punch in his keyboard (Korg Pa1x) - and I agree. I think that many people prefer my style of playing and my choice of songs, but I would like that they prefer my keyboard too. And yes, I do believe that it will bring more business.

Rikki,

With regards to silencing the drums you have two workarounds:
- Revoice the drums to a silent patch from the custom drum section
- Route the drum audio to a sub output. (You will need to put a plug into that output otherwise the routing won't work, but don't plug it into your mixer.

Chony

Hi Ian ,

Glad to see your up & about !!

September ? OK

So the 61 key + FSX was correct , as was the no speakers.

This begs to ask , will it be a Hybrid ? a cross between the Motif and the Tyros 2 ???

Can I say a grown up PSR-E403 and be very close ?

NO hard disc , right ? But NO SSD either , right ?

HDIM video out ? Firewire ?

USB Recorder / right ?

My last question ( you don`t really believe that )
Speakers , new style or will IT use the T-2 style speakers ?

Thanks a ton !!
Gary 

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Thanks Chony,
sounds like you have more options than I did with the PSR1500.

thank you

best wishes
Rikki

Hi Ian ,

Thanks for your reply.

I really must make the right decision , because I plan on keeping the KB for some time.

I do wish there was more info , but thanks again for what you have provided.

Sorry to be such a pain !!

Take care ,
Gary 