Well it's been 5 years now that I've been posting on sythzone.. I must say it's been fun.. The thing that gets me now is that for the past 3 years at least "I get it".. I get song creation and mixing recording.. However the start was a bit rough 5 years ago here at the zone, A lot of bashing I still to this day get worked up over it.. But hey, i've got 50+ tunes..


If you have the time take a listen all these tunes where created and original songs on my yammie arranger, I have 29 here.. http://chipos.com
Thanks Guys!



[This message has been edited by beachbum (edited 03-06-2008).]

Nice stuff, is that your vocal?

Are they published?

I don't understand who would be saying stuff about your material in a bad light, maybe just constructive criticism that came out bad?

Good work, which yammie did which songs?

Hey Beachbum ...

I'm with you.. Great timing on this thread ..

I posted a song here on synthzone and not one comment. Maybe the song sucked and nobody wants to tell me so, is what I wonder


Your music is excellent. Great Job .


[This message has been edited by DanO1 (edited 03-06-2008).]

Thanks Frankie,
Yes they are all published, original tunes by me on my yammie 2000, then 3000 then 900, however, I had some guest guitar players on a few of them.. Boy, I need to get over them olden days here at the zone!

Thanks..

BB, some people are just Bashers, and you will find which opinions to value and which to disregard.
I've always enjoyed your music. I don't have time to participate in the negativity.
Thanks for posting.
DonM

I don't mean this as a negative, but, I don't think that there is an OBLIGATION on the part of SZ members to respond to unsolicited posted music. I wouldn't read too much into a non-response. It could mean that it just didn't generate enough interest, positive or negative, for someone to (symbolicly) pick up pen and paper and respond; or it could mean........ok, I don't know what else it could mean.

Usually, if it's good, lot's of people will let you know that; if it's not so good, well, we've got lots of 'Paula Abduls' who will praise it, no matter what it sounds like. Very few here will outright bash it. So what does that mean, in terms of the value of a response? Not much. If you want honest (and therefore, more valuable) feedback on your music and your original compositions in particular, I would think that a songwriting forum or even a (home) recording forum, would be a better bet. JMO.

chas

Usually, if it's good, lot's of people will let you know that; if it's not so good, well, we've got lots of 'Paula Abduls' who will praise it, no matter what it sounds like ....


Chaz,

I am guilty of posting unsolicited music very recently . No one said a word , so I guess it sucked and even paula abdul wouldn't like it.

Can't get any better , unless you get feedback.

Beachbum,

for me, your songs (music & vocals) already have reached the level I expect to hear on commercial projects.
You should be (and rightfully so you are) proud of your work.

Keep on, and leave negative comments in the past... getting even happens only in the movies. And if you save the amount of brain cells you would spend on getting even, and use them in your work, you might see your songs in a movie. And then, you won't give a rat's S900 about getting even.

Cheers,
Trident

Todays music scene is all about MONEY & who you know....talent takes back seat.
Just look around you & open your ears.
Beach bum I too enjoy most of your work & give you props as I have posted replies a few times, but many times its better to just keep your opinions to yourself as to not start WW III....although I would love you be more diversified as it kind of gets repetitive sounding vocal wise if I'm being honest....other then that adding people playing other instruments to the styles is always a plus especially when you customize the styles makingthem Your Own... Slamming & Bragging people that make a great full time living playing Covers in the trenches for years will get you nowhere but more alienation.

Good Luck with your music.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 03-06-2008).]

I only listened to your songs a few times, and that was more than a year ago. If I recall, you have a voice similar to that of Sting, which for some is really neat. Your playing technique is really good, and if I were a young listener I probably would have like your vocals better. However, I'm an old fart, more of a Sinatra, Como and Uncle Dave vocal fan. And, I have to agree with Donny, most of the songs sound almost identical, but that's your style and that's what you do.

And, as he also stated, don't knock the guys in the trenches that perform standards every day for a living. Those standards, BTW, are what recently put a lot of money in the pocket of Rod Stewart and a few other well-known performers.

Good luck,

Gary

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Travlin' Easy

Dan, you're a longtime member and a straight shooter, too, based on my dealings with you (I've done business with Dan in the past). But you can't allow yourself to feel like a victim because no one responded to a tune you posted. How would you respond if you actually got a negative review? I think that if you absolutely want feedback, then you should specifically ask for it, but be prepared to accept any and all criticisms. Ask responders to be specific about positive OR negative critiques; "YOU SUCK" doesn't cut it (except in one or two cases ) so we, as responders, also have a responsibility to offer our criticisms in as constructive a manner as possible. I also think one can do oneself a disservice by proclaiming their 'superior' talent up front (aka 'bragging).

There are many levels of talent on this board and I personally think that so-called 'working pro's' and 'home players' should be measured with a different yardstick. On a personal level, I tend to be MUCH, MUCH harder on a self-proclaimed 'pro'. Speaking of that, I'd like to see someone start a thread on what it means to be a 'pro'. Not a definition, exactly, but a very good example (IMO) is that guy that plays guitar in Ricky Minor's band on American Idol. Ohmygod, that guy plays EVERYTHING, IN EVERY STYLE, and flawlessly. I gotten to the point of just waiting to see him switch from country to rock to latin to .......without missing a beat. Now THAT's a pro. Anybody know who I'm talking about? It's (almost) worth suffering through 'idol' just to hear that great band. hmmmm, getting a little off topic here. Anyhoo..


chas



[This message has been edited by cgiles (edited 03-06-2008).]

Chas ..

You are right.... Didn't mean to snap back.

I've been doing housework all day ....

http://www.rickeyminor.com/
http://www.jazzreview.com/articledetails.cfm?ID=1772


Paul Jackson Jr.
The number one R&B session guitarist, master of the unobtrusive rhythm scratch. Not related to fusion bassist and Headhunter Paul Jackson. (DBW)

Deborah Allen, Telepathy

Cerrone, Cerrone V: Angelina; Dancing Machine

Stanley Clarke, Hideaway

Leonard Cohen, The Future

Earth, Wind & Fire, Touch The World

Roberta Flack, Oasis

Howard Hewett, Allegiance

High Inergy, Frenzy; Hold On

Whitney Houston, I'm Your Baby Tonight

Jermaine Jackson, Let's Get Serious

Quincy Jones, Back On The Block

Chaka Khan

Gladys Knight & The Pips, Life

Patti LaBelle, Winner In You

Madonna, True Blue

Stephanie Mills, I've Got The Cure

Vernessa Mitchell, This Is My Story

René Moore, Destination Love

René & Àngela, Street Called Desire

Minnie Riperton, Love Lives Forever

Smokey Robinson, Smoke Signals

Patrice Rushen, Patrice, Pizzazz, Straight From The Heart, Watch Out!, Anything But Ordinary

John & Arthur Simms

Donna Summer, Bad Girls; Cats Without Claws

Temptations, Power

USA For Africa, We Are The World

Angela Winbush, The Real Thing

Young MC, Brainstorm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVWMQ6i1I1k&feature=related

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 03-06-2008).]

I agree, Chas, the guy's a MONSTOR! I'd lay odds he's a VERY experienced studio guy. The really good ones I've known can play anything, first take, hold up under extreme pressure (A la television taping) and don't need much sleep. Checking out his PRS (the Santana guitar-he's better than Carlos) appearance-probably at NAMM and other UTube post shows that he is "top drawer".

Great talent!


Russ
(former half-assed studio guy)

[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 03-06-2008).]

Here's an example of why it's so hard to critique work. This guy is in a whole different league. I'm a pretty fair guitar player, and this guy "eats my lunch" with one hand! I think I'd hold my own with most pro players, but would be embarassed to get on the bandstand with this kind of player.

Think of it, though...he may suck at being a single entertainer. In that context, many here would be better at that application.

Evaluating musicianship, entertainment abilities, music knowledge, etc. is a slippery slope. We have to be SURE we're on the right page!

Russ




[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 03-06-2008).]

Donny, thanks for that. I guess I'm just blown away by the guy's versatility. On 'Idol', I've seen him just sit in a chair and do a very soulful guitar-only accompaniment of a Country tear-jerker and then do a blazin' hot rock thing on the next tune. What's amazing is that he couldn't look farther from either. In fact, he looks more like your friendly neighborhood school bus driver. Never judge the talent by it's cover.

good find.

chas

Hey, Russ ... don't sell yourself short !
1/2 assed? Naw!!!

Beachbum, and guys, do you do requests?

Yesterday AND today I listened to Rod Stewart's "Baby Jane" on the radio... I would very much like to hear it from you... Are you willing to to give it a try????

My opinion is that Beachbum's distinctive voice is perfect for the song.

Can anyone post a version of it?

[This message has been edited by trident (edited 03-07-2008).]

Beachbum, I have replied in the past to your posted music, and you do a nice job, no question about it. http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/016969.html

I agree that you sound like Sting as well, I do hear some Rod Stewart too. Once upon a time I enjoyed the style of music you play. Times have changed and as I got older I seem to only enjoy the "Great American Songbook", (As Gary said old fart stuff) Showtunes, Jazz and really got to like Country music. I never liked Country music going back 20 years ago, it's only the last 5 years I started enjoying it. As for "Covers" I love playing them. I have fun playing them and make a few extra dollars every year that pay for my toys. Keep making that great music I'm sure you have an audience for it.



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