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#228950 - 03/11/08 02:38 AM
what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Oradea, RO
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i am not sure i put the right words in the subject, but i'd like to know what do you do when you are hired to perform at some event?
for instance, how's your wedding program looks like? what are your moments in your show at such type of performance? at a dance afternoon, what do you do beside playing dance music?
how do you interact with the people? telling jokes? asking them to come in front, say something?
maybe the topic was already brought up before, but i can not remember...
please share your way of doing it...
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#228955 - 03/12/08 12:27 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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I try to remember lyrics and chords. Try to remember not to pick my nose on stage. Seriously, as others have said, you must read the audience, try to find out what they really want, and then MAKE THEM BEND TO YOUR WILL! No, really seriously, in most places they want to hear songs they know or remember and can dance to. The beat and tempo of the song must be accurate, the rest of the performance can be really personalized the way you want. You can look at the ages of the audience and usually guess what era their musical favorites are from. After all these years, I've pretty much learned what will work in most situations. I do play some instrumentals but they are almost always songs that were HITS as instrumentals, such as Last Date, Dr. Zhivago, Yakity Sax, Tuff, Wonderland By Night, Honky Tonk, Tequila, etc. Almost all my work is done by using styles and playing right-hand fills and solos, while using both feet to activate sustain, vocal harmony, fills, breaks. As an added bonus, I've found it is difficult to pick your nose when all of your appendages are busy. DonM
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#228958 - 03/12/08 02:36 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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I do hundreds of songs completely from memory, chords and words. I have perhaps another thousand digital charts with lyrics and chord changes, at my fingertips for those reque$t$. I have all of them on my PC, my laptop, my PSRS900 and SD5. As for the latest performance, that was last night. It was rather uneventful with small but steady flow of diners/dancers. I start with a middle of the road song. Last night it was "I Can Help". Then I will so a slow 6/8 ballad. I think it was "Can't Help Falling In Love". Then I had a couple of requests; one for "Wonderful Tonight" and one for "#@%&! Brown-eyed Girl". Then a Happy Birthday (I usually always do that several times a night. I've even written a special birthday song for the club I play in.} After that, it went something like: Fly Me To The Moon, Suzie Q, Spanish Eyes, That's All Right Now Mama, Margaritaville, He Stopped Loving Her Today, Can't You See, San Francisco, Sweet Home Alabama--maybe not exactly in that order. Most were requests. I took a break after about an hour and a half. I try to time that so that I'm on stage when people are leaving so that can't sneak out and not leave me a tip! Later I had a reque$t for Cajun music, so I did Jole Blon, Don't Mess With My Toot-toot, Diggy-liggy Li, and Big Mamou. Later some "ballroom" types came in and I did Misty, Begin The Beguine and Shake, Rattle and Roll (Big band style). As it cleared out and only a few regulars were there I experimented some, jamming with the Riff feature on the SD5. Some of the Riff styles progressions work really great, some have a their own agenda! This was a night when I did only a few Country songs. They are usually a larger part of my evening, because a lot of our clientele is older people and/or wealthy Texans in town for the casinos. They are filming a lot of movies here now. One night last week Michael Douglas and Oliver Stone were guests. Tonight, it might be totally different. I hope so; I love the variety. One night I did every Hank Williams song I could think of, and that's a lot! As far as talking to the audience, sometimes I do it more than others--depends on the feel of the night, whether I know anybody, whether they are paying attention or talking, etc. I have the obligatory arsenal of one-liners and jokes. (I'm taking a short break, because I don't want to short anything out, but I'm warning you I'm coming right back.) (If there's a song you'd like to hear just . . . keep it to yourself/NO I mean let me know what it is, I probably don't know it anyway.) (Are you folks from Texas? I thought so. You can always tell a Texan, just can't tell them very much). You know, corny junk. They love it. DonM
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#228961 - 03/12/08 07:44 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 12/08/02
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DonM, DNJ and a lot of other entertainers on this forum play the same songs, pretty much enjoy the same experiences, and overall, we have a lot of fun doing what we do. I no longer do weddings unless both the bride and groom are over 55 years of age, but this was my decission. In fact, I just turned down two wedding jobs and told the folks that called to call a DJ. The bridal party in both cases were under 21 years of age. Like anyone else that has been in this business for more than a couple of weeks, I've had my share of jobs that I would consider less than optimal. In those instances I did what any pro entertainer would do--keep things upbeat, keep the atmosphere positive, smile a lot, get my check and get the hell out of there. That's the nature of this business, especially if you perform for a living. If you don't do this for a living you can do anything you want! Good Luck, Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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#228965 - 03/17/08 01:49 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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You've got to deliver, and what's required changes not only according to the croud but the venue and sometimes the instrumentation.
My jobs include latin instrumentals on a Brazilian guitar only, a trio with guitar, single arranger jobs, an arranger and up to three additional keyboards, work with a B-3, Rhodes and drummer, work with a C-1 and Electro, drummer and guitar, group work on keyboard, upright, fretted or fretless bass, guitar and everything in between. The most satisfying job is with a guitar and sax. The guitar player is a great player and singer. He covers 1/2 the vocals and I do the rest. He's an any style, any key kind of dude, so it's easy.
Every job is different. The ones I also enjoy now are me on keys and jazz guitar, my son on upright and electric bass and my grandson on drums.
We're not great yet, but we sure are LOUD! Delivering what the audience wants, when they want it for a liveable price is the challenge.
R.
[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 03-17-2008).]
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#228967 - 03/17/08 02:36 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Loc: Los Angeles, CA
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DNJ Oh my brotha'........... I'm sure everyone is on different levels here musically, vocally etc....Pros and amateurs alike....(And I'm sure some think they are better than they actually are).... So maybe he just wants a little help.... And actually I agree with you ...I don't divulge my "secret" singing practice schedule...But it may not work for others like my voice responds to it.... And even though I may agree with you .... I WOULDN'T SAY IT!!!! I don't feel the question was inappropriate....rather your response Steve Altonian http://www.soundclick.com/stevealtonian [This message has been edited by Steve A (edited 03-17-2008).]
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#228969 - 03/17/08 03:09 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 01/28/05
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Loc: Oradea, RO
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Originally posted by Dnj: In business you never reveal your secrets....Professional music is no different.....I'm surprised you even got this many responses so far. What we do took years of trial & error & paid our dues....think before you speak or you might be sitting home more then your gigging in the future.
donny... you did not mean that, right? do you have the feeling i am trying to get your secrets? or anyone's else? i get it, you think i am just about to enter this "OMB showbiz" thing, and i am after an easy start? i've been doing this long enough, over 15 years. i performed for all kind of people, events, purposes, by myself or togheter with some other fellows. i actually started when romania was not even democratic, that is before 1989... i was a young guy doing something that not many even tried... i had my share of "trial & error & paid" probably more than alot of our friends on this forum, and i did learn how to do some things, at least in my part of the world. i guess i just wanted to have some of your oppinions - no intention to steel ideas. they most likely wouldnt work in here anyway... so, my friend donny, dont be upset with my topic. i appreciate your feedback. also the other's. this might have been just informative.
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#228975 - 03/17/08 08:35 PM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Wow, I appreciate the kind words guys. Dave first turned me on to Ketron, then Solton, some years back. At his suggestion, I drove to Dallas to see one, and ended up bringing it home. I got back about 4 p.m. and had a job at 8:00. I called Dave and he said, "Hey, it's so easy to play, just take it on to work and figure it out on the job." Maybe that's the one time I got BAD advice from Uncle Dave! Not about the keyboard, but it was a LONG night trying to figure out that thing on the fly. Before I left the house I had found how to call up styles and sounds, and I thought it would be pretty easy. However, the styles weren't always what I expected them to be when I started them. Many times that night, I just started playing a style, listened to it for a few seconds and thought of a song that would fit. It was pretty ragged, but I got through it. I would never have attempted that ordinarily but it was a Monday night and I knew there would only be a handful of friends there anyway. Needless to say, that was the last time I was THAT unprepared for a job. I plan to post a few more songs pretty soon, so be prepared for more punishment! DonM
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#228977 - 03/18/08 02:09 AM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 01/28/05
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that's all very true! thanks for sharing! for my type of playing/singing for example, probably is a good idea to interact alot with the audience. usually i play song with a christian message. maybe doesnt make alot of sense for american culture, but in here there is quite a big difference between christian and non-christian songs. so, doing this type of music, my jobs are quite different than most of the OMB guys from my area. a (almost) totally different aproach. anyway, an interesting way to interact seems to be the karaoke moments. it's NOT something i enjoy very much, but the audience. and usually, i try to pick up people that i am pretty sure do not have a very accurate musical ear, so the funny is guarantee! on the other hand, another good idea is to invite people that do sing very well to share their songs. this also work very good.
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#228979 - 03/18/08 11:30 AM
Re: what exactly do you do when performing?
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
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Donny, I can't imagine what any of us could share that would come back to bite us in the a**. To me, that sort of reeks of either insecurity or a bit of an ego.
That's just me, however, and I'm not suggesting that my opinion is right or that your approach is wrong.
I even give "walk-in" musicians the name and number of the person in charge of booking where I'm working and wish them well when they try to book a job. If they're better than me, they deserve the work. If they're not, they won't get it.
As I've gotten older, I take great pride in the times I've been counted on as a mentor, and vicariously enjoy the success of some of those I've helped along the way.
My musical life has been richer and easier with the assistance of Ray Brown, Ella, "Pearlie Mae", Herb Ellis, and many others who gave a kind word or serious advice to "the kid".
That, in great part, is what's so cool about the business.
Russ
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