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#229506 - 03/23/08 03:54 PM
Re: News about the coming Tyros 3
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Registered: 12/08/02
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Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
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The perfect arranger will never exist. That's because everyone has their own, special needs, or wants, and no manufacturer could possibly accommodate everyone and manage to stay in business. If the particular function, voice, style, etc.. that you require is not featured with the T3, you'll either have to find a work-around or just don't buy it. Gary ------------------ Travlin' Easy
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#229510 - 03/23/08 06:44 PM
Re: News about the coming Tyros 3
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Registered: 03/10/04
Posts: 1247
Loc: New York
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Originally posted by to the genesys: It always amazes me when some one says they want a certain basic technology on an arranger (sequencer, sampler, mp3 player,) when some one jumps up and says, GET A LAPTOP. The point of getting a laptop is that it can do the job of these three things infinitely better than any keyboard will ever be able to do them (until they include a 15 inch screen, alphabetic keyboard and mouse). You just can't do effective sequencing and sampling any other way. If a sequencer, sampler, harmonizer, and mp3 player are so important to your performance, you need to do it right. What exists on the keyboards in these areas is a joke - they are nowhere near the professional standards you can get on a laptop. When I go to a performance, in addition to my Tyros 2, I take an iPod (even though the T2 has an audio player), I take a TC Helicon Voiceworks module (which is much more useful than anything on any keyboard because I have full access to the front panel), and I take my laptop which I use both as a sampler, and to record up to sixteen individual inputs onto separate tracks for post mixing. I don't see any other way to do this without cutting corners.
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#229511 - 03/23/08 07:39 PM
Re: News about the coming Tyros 3
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Registered: 11/10/00
Posts: 2195
Loc: Catskill Mountains, NY
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Originally posted by rikkisbears: Hi AJ, nice to hear from you again. Miss our chats. Unfortunately we headed in different directions since the good old softsynth arranger days, you to T2 as your main arranger keyboard , me to korg PA800.
If you ever decide to swap, I can fill you in on some of the nitty gritty details on the PA800, I think Korg's improved since the PA80 days. Currently I'm learning to program style tracks in Guitar Mode. Pretty interesting stuff. haahaa.
best wishes Rikki
Hi Rikki, Thanks. I still use Soft synths quite a bit btw. If anything, I might be a future candidate for the PA2x pro. I played both the PA800 and 2x and I like both boards, but I really liked both the key feel and 76 keys on the 2x. Still, neither would be replacing the Tyros 2, only complementing it. A good portion of what I do live these days consists of acoustic playing, with sometimes little or no backing. That's why I want to keep the T2. The SA guitar voices, especially when I layer them with a mega, give me a pretty good live guitar feel. In the case of the megas, when you play at lower velocities, the effects become more prominent. I've practiced a lot and learned to adjust velocity pressure when I play so that I can incorporate the mutes, scrapes etc that accompany the megas along with the articulations from the SA voices. If I had to rely more heavily on style content, I'd say the Korgs ( even the Pa80 ) would satisfy me more than the T2. I discussed purchasing the PA800 and PA2x with my dealer's kb manager, and also took a look at the M3, with the Karma 2 functions. I spent a few hours there, and even he agreed that for what I do I'm probably better off with what I already have, and that the PAx2 is a great board but might be best for me only if I wanted a secondary board. I like talking with him because he never tries to pressure a sale. We also agreed that we both like the M3 a lot but that it isn't the best rig for players like us that don't want to spend a ton of hours trying to learn and customize it. Great songwriting and jamming tool, but precise live play isn't a strong point. The korg ( and Roland ) guitar modes seem to be very similar ( albeit less complex ) in design to what I have in Music Labs Real Guitar and Real Strat software. With some programming and effort, I can definitely get more realistic sounds than I can with my layered Yamaha voices, but.. in a live setting it's a bit simpler to load and simply play the T2 voices. For studio work though, the Music lab softwares are the way to go. Cheers Rikki. AJ
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