Hi Diki,
I think you've got a great idea, it's hard converting when you don't know what the style's supposed to sound like in the first place. I always use my psr1500/sd1 as a reference to try & get as close as possible.

I've found though, that even knowing what the style is supposed to sound like, doesn't always help if EMC does a lousy job of the conversion.

For instance in the Intro's & Endings EMC removes tempo changes ( when converting to Korg & PSR). I recently converted the SD1's Slow Orch style to PA800, it's got 30 tempo changes in one of the Intro's. Without them the intro just didn't sound the same. Only reason I managed to put them back in, was because I was able to record them from the sd1 itself.
A lot of the psr styles I like, also have these tempo changes.

Another thing, the drums don't always convert correctly. I've noticed with some of the Roland G70 styles for instance, they must use non standard drum kits. EMC comes up with absolute garbage when one of these kits is converted. Maybe a pro like yourself would be able to reconstruct the drum track by hearing what it's supposed to sound like, but for a hobbyist like me , I don't even bother trying.

My pet project at the moment is putting together a bit of a drum library with drum style tracks that have converted reasonably well & just need a bit of tweaking.
This will hopefully allow me to replace a badly converted track with one that sounds reasonable. Means I don't have to throw the style out altogether.


You may be able to save a bit of space, PA800/PA2X may not be worthwhile as yet.
EMC XT still can't read the PA800 1.51 format. It crashes.

best wishes
Rikki

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I would say for this to be of use, most of the main TOTL and midline arrangers need representing, so my list would probably run;

Tyros2
S900
PA800 (unless they are identical with PA2X)
PA2X
PA1X (that's what most of the converted Korg styles are from, so far)
G70
E80
SD-1 (is SD-5 essentially the same styles?)




[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 04-09-2008).]

Hi Al,
I'm surprised too, that more members don't visit, especially since you do have a download section. http://www.arrangerworld.com/dl.asp?cmd=3

best wishes
Rikki
p.s.
thanks for getting that PA800 rhumba style posted so quickly, saves me messing round with "you send it" or whatever.





[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 04-09-2008).]

Hi Diki, and all,

Since I believe I already answered the question of hosting, I am surprised no-one mentioned it. I may be transparent though, and if so, I would make a valuable asset to the security forces hunting Bin Laden. No mentioning taking the ransom.

Gmail has 6,3 GB (6,300 MB) of FREE storage space, and ALL you have to do is simply E-MAIL a recorded style to

arranger.style.audio.clips.1 AT gmail DOT com

with a subject that describes what it is about.

All someone has to do then, is to log on using the above name, and provide the password .....

synthzone.1

and he/she will bwe able to access whatever he or the others have posted, with a manageable interface. It also saves you the hassle of inputting warped looking phrases just for the download.

Why get in the trouble to mail, have someone upload, host, pay money to host and so on, when you have that?

If you are concerned about your "sender's" email showing, simply log on to gmail and make your own account, and use that account to send to the other...

Please now confirm my transparency by ignoring this and make me eligible as a valuable asset in the espionage world.

Thank you, Trident. I am sure this will prove to be one of the best ways to do this.

Now all we need are the volunteers.

Look folks, the next time someone sends you a pile of converted styles from an SD-1, or a PA1XPro, this site could save you DAYS of work trying to figure out what is going on with the drums, or what that guitar strum pattern is SUPPOSED to sound like, how that synth sound works with the style, etc., etc.. A modest amount of work now could save us all some very valuable time in the future. With luck, the site could grow as new arrangers are released, and future arranger users could get well needed info about legacy styles, too. Please consider giving generously of your time. It WILL be appreciated...

And here's an opportunity to use those handy dandy MP3 recorders on our (well, YOUR!) arrangers...

I just hope that we can get enough people interested to get started. That's why, Trident, I wasn't making too big a fuss about your GMail idea. Without the volunteers to do the recording, the site to host it all becomes somewhat moot...

Hi Trident,
thank you for the tip on the GMail storage space, had no idea one could store that much.

It may come in handy for my own needs.

One question though, (unless I've totally misunderstood what you wrote) how does one stop spammers from uploading stuff to the site if the password is generally known??

best wishes
Rikki


[QUOTE]Originally posted by trident:
[B]Hi Diki, and all,

Gmail has 6,3 GB (6,300 MB) of FREE storage space,

[This message has been edited by rikkisbears (edited 04-10-2008).]

Thanks Diki,
let's hope there are interested parties. After all, the reason I took the liberty of creating the particular account, is that I thought your idea was something that was worth the time, even if I myself don't have ANY use of this at all.

Rikki,
the gmail account is currently at 6.3GB and counting up. if you log on the account i created using the details above, you will see the counter in the first page, going up as you look at it.
as for the spam, you are right, there is always the danger, but
1) it is free, and beggars can't be choosers.
2) i have that kind of acccount for a while now, (i am careful of not giving this account when i log on to sites that require registration, I have another one for just that) and i havent received a single spam mail. I believe, I hope, that if we all simply use that account just to log on and see what others posted, or to mail TO that account something for them, spam will not be an issue.
3) since supposedly MANY people will access it to see the posts, if each one of us deletes one spam mail, the account will be spam free.

4) and OF COURSE, we can set up anothe account, say "synthzonemembersongs" so anyone wanting to post a song or two, just mails them there and notifies the others here.

Hi Trident,
wish I'd thought of using an email account as a storage site when I was running my Yahoo stylemaking group. Would have been extremely handy as a storeage area additional styles.
thanks Trident.

best wishes
Rikki

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