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#233276 - 04/29/08 08:23 PM Re: How do you define success...?
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
I don't know about you, but I haven't heard a line dance that the arranger could NOT pull off, at least as well as it pulls off every other style you DO use...

What is there about 'Electric Slide' that makes it so hard to sing? OK, it's a girl singing it, but you probably cover other tunes that women HAVE sung (Fever, for instance... it didn't stop Elvis!). Adjust the key, off you go. Cha-Cha Slide, same thing...

Add in the fact that you can adjust the words for your particular party, and you have something that is BETTER than the CD.

This is what I don't get... Why play DJ when you CAN perform it live..? Don't kid yourself. Your audience doesn't think you sing as well as Ol' Blue Eyes, either (no offense, just the facts, ma'am!), but it doesn't stop you from performing THOSE songs... Why give the DJ an inch if you don't HAVE to?

My audience comes up to me and requests a hiphop number, I just tell them we'll play it on the break. They go away happy, I go home with my soul intact, everybody wins. Heck, they even request things I COULD do if only I knew them! Mostly, they understand when I tell them 'I don't know that song'. Then I play something else they DO like... everybody wins.

What do you do when they request a tune YOU don't know? Do you ALWAYS play the CD? Or are the times when you WILL simply say "I don't know that one?'

But if you start to feel obliged to play EVERY request they come up with, immediately, you simply open yourself to playing live less and less, and DJ-ing more and more. And eventually, just DJ-ing. And that IS a hard row to hoe to put food on the table...
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#233277 - 04/29/08 08:29 PM Re: How do you define success...?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14282
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by ianmcnll:
If it's stupid but works, it isn't stupid.



Sorry, but if it's 'stupid but works', it IS stupid, but works!

Or, as my momma used to say 'Stupid is as stupid does'... then she gave me some good advice about chocolates!

Run, Ian, run!
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#233278 - 04/29/08 08:35 PM Re: How do you define success...?
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Sorry, but if it's 'stupid but works', it IS stupid, but works!

Or, as my momma used to say 'Stupid is as stupid does'... then she gave me some good advice about chocolates!

Run, Ian, run!


Don't eat chocolates. Diki...they'll give you pimples on your face.

And don't believe everything they say in the movies...dump the Gump...don't be a chump.

Ian

PS...Sometimes I guess there just aren't enough rocks.


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#233279 - 05/01/08 07:38 AM Re: How do you define success...?
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Registered: 07/01/03
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Loc: England
Captain Russ
How do you define success as it relates to your involvement in music?
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Hi, Russ,
For me,
1.it was turning up for a booking at a wedding and the bride was crying her eyes out, because nothing had seemed to have gone right for her all day, the wedding photos was the last straw, her wedding train blowing in the wind, the congregation looking and talking to each other, looking down and adjusting her wedding dress, and so on. At the end of the evening she came up to me, put her arms around my neck and gave me a kiss I will never forget, and thanked me for a great evening.

2.When I was being paid £40 a booking, and a man put £20 in my top pocket. I said I’m being paid for this booking, he said it’s the best I’ve enjoyed myself for the last 10 years.

3. At a booking for the, Far Eastern Prisoner Of War Association, a man who seemed to have had a bit too much to drink, had been eye balling me a lot all evening, towards the end of the end of the evening he started to stager towards me, when two of his friends grabbed him, I said what had I done to upset him, they said he is only happy when your playing at our socials, and he turns down important meetings to be here, and he wants to know if he can live with you and your wife. [ he had worked as a prisoner of war, on the Bridge over the River Kwai]

4. The first year I moved in to Sheltered Housing, of about 40 flats, I said to my wife on New Years Eve, I suppose we are the only two left in the complex, she said no, there are some residents in their flat, on their own. I said go and knock on their door and tell them I’m taking my ARRANGER keyboard [Technics KN 2000] down to the lounge for a sing song, and they are quite welcome to join in. There was about seven of us singing our hearts out till about 1am New Years day. Last New Years Eve 2007, there were 40 people, residents and non residents; but now I don’t do the entertaining, I book the type of person who can wear a chicken hat, and get us up in a circle dancing, [and that’s not easy with 70,80,90 year olds.].

So many good memories.

I got my first booking when I was 14yrs old I’m now 75yrs old, and book music and entertainment once a month for elderly residents and non residents.
They are not too happy with the entertainer who thinks we are brain dead, talks down to us, and thinks all we want to hear are songs from the first world war. Those residents that can’t get on the dance floor, perform the arm movements to the YMCA and similar songs in their chairs.
There is one lovely lady 99 years young, and when I see her singing away to an entertainer I have booked, or to my own musical efforts, to me that’s success in music.

Russ, I’m sure us older generation, could swap great stories all night over a beverage or two, with out any derogatory remarks.



Interesting thread.

Best Wishes,
Fred Wren.
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