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#23321 - 12/28/98 01:04 AM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
cybrlion Offline
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Registered: 12/09/98
Posts: 6
The QY70 has 24 tracks. 16 of these are out right free style tracks. You can add as many bars as you want. The other 8 are limited to 8 bars a piece. But if you set the quater note to 32 notes per measure you can take this out to 16 bars. And I do believe house usual goes out 16 bars and the cnages to another bar structure. There are two drum tracks.



The demos are not that good so do not let that be the judge of your decision.



It has 3 effects processors it is in tradition of the XG standard. one of the processors ha 40 effects.



If you want to do live house stuff buy a Phat boy controller box as well. This will allow you to do live filter sweeps on any of the 16 channels in the QY.



Keep in mind that the QY70 can be programed internally. So you could do a program change in the middle of a track open a filter change effects parameters . It's amazing, It would be hard to do all this live but you cound set this up before hand. But with the phat boy controller box you can control filter cutoff, resonance, vibrato rate, vibrato delay, vibrato depth, reverb, chorus, attack, decay, sustain, release, pan, volume, midi channel



everything I mentioned above has its own knob on the Phat boy. You can even enter Sysex info right from the front panel of the QY70.



The 16 tracks will send midi.



It has over 500 sounds

20 drum kits very much in tradition of the Roland style.



All tracks allow you to program the attack, decay, release, cutoff, and resonance right from a page inside the QY70 all self contained.



Let me know if you have any other questions.



Cyberlion...

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#23322 - 01/01/99 06:16 PM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
House Junkie Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/19/98
Posts: 29
Loc: Florida USA
Dam, all of that from that little box?That sounds sweet.Thanx for the help.Just what I
needed,a new piece of gear to beg,borrow and
steal for!Happy New Year.da House Junkie....

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#23323 - 01/02/99 02:30 PM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
Cinda Private Offline
Member

Registered: 10/05/98
Posts: 87
In response - I will steal a post from some guy names Tommy Hillbilly on another forum:


- The question still remains - do you want to use it as a sketch pad or as a
full blown sequencer?

People have debated over features in these two tools for the longest and to
some degree, they are comparing apples and oranges.

The Roland PMA-5 never claimed to be a sequencer. It has always claimed
to be a "Personal Music Assistant" Thus the name PMA. Providing song
backing ideas from many "standard" genres In case you want to add a
melody line on top of a chord progression - or a style mode if you want to
create your own backing. This is what I primarily do.

The QY70 is a full blown sequencer and synthesizer. It is essentially an
"Arranger Keyboard In a Box" They took their QY300 idea and QY700 idea
and miniaturized it to "compete" with Rolands PMA - and it really doesn't.

Yamaha took their QY300 and put it in a keyboard that they call the QS300
- which is my workstation of choice - so I am not knocking the concept in
fact I am saying that it is very awesome. (They layout of the QS300
Workstation is a lot easier to understand than that of the "70" and although
it is my workstation of choice and XG compatible like the QY70 I still chose
the Roland because it helps me personally work through rough spots in
songs that I am writing - a matter of preference)

But don't confuse what the two of them do - they are different creatures -
with different purposes.

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#23324 - 04/07/99 04:09 PM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
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Question for cybrlion - You said the demos in the QY70 aren't that good, and I totaly agree. Side by side the PMA5 demo blew it away. I could't figure out how to listen to the individual sounds in the QY70. Are they good? Are they more realistic? The sounds in the demos sounded like their old FM synthesis, and the drums sounded so far from real, they should be ashamed to put them in the demo. I really liked the sounds in the PMA5 but if the QY70 is as good as you say, I might get it instead.

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#23325 - 04/23/99 10:27 AM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
Cinda Private Offline
Member

Registered: 10/05/98
Posts: 87
That depends, I have heard some QY70's that sound like real keyboards, and others that sound like toys. The same thing goes for the QY300 and QY700.

I'm not sure if there was a difference in model years or an intrnal toggle switch.

Sorry I can't be of more assistance.

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#23326 - 01/22/00 11:00 PM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
Anonymous
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I guess I'll throw my hat into the ring here. I stumbled across a PMA-5 up for auction on eBay about 10 months ago and won it for half the going street price (at the time). I love it! I do admit the MIDI-IN jack gives me trouble at times, if it's not angled down, notes tend to get lost or stick.

I've seen the debates everywhere on the PMA-5 vs the QY-70 (that's the one, right?) and I like what's been discussed here. Basically, they're different enough to be in different categories. To the PMA-5 credit, it is jam-loaded with tweakable stuff from Sysex that you'd never know existed unless you dug into the manual. But it's got filters, LFOs for automatic sweeps and vibratos, plus the Chours and Reverb are completely manipulatable. The seven choices given in the PMA's interface are simply macros to set the internal settings. The QY scores points for being able to enter Sysex right from the unit. I never opened up the nifty abilities of my PMA until I got it hooked to Cakewalk.

What else can I say? It makes a great sketchpad, as Cinda said. When I'm on the go or don't feel like sitting down at my computer, I can just 'jot' something down on the PMA, play around with it a little and then eventually dump it to Cakewalk and flesh it out more. I wrote half a song on a plane trip to see a friend, then finished up the song lying on her apartment floor. Not bad!

And my AX-1 (also had from eBay) is a wonderful companion to it. All in all, I'm really happy with it, it makes a great GM/GS module for my computer (for those 'older' games that still use MIDI music) and there's just something about pulling out this book-sized thing in public, whipping out the stylus and a set of headphones, and then writing music while other people try to figure out what exactly you're up to.

Feather

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#23327 - 02/01/00 10:45 PM Re: PMA5 Going Extinct???
MynDwave Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 12/06/98
Posts: 9
Loc: Fontana, CA
OK Feathers!!
Give it up. Man I haven't been to this site in ages. I'm glad to see this thread alive and well. I've completed too many songs to say on my PMA, from soup to nuts. I still write on it at least 30 minutes a day, good or bad. I feel I know it inside out, but you apparently have cracked into this baby in ways I only dream. What do you mean you can tweak the effects and lfo's?
I've got cakewalk and the serial interface..what do I do??? PLease let me know. I am getting a bit fried on the voices and my new Triton is still a few months away....
But here-here on the wonderful advantages of the PMA!! I too enjoy it on flights and waiting in airports and it always turns heads! I've completed small concertos on a 3 day business trip (Every spare moment sitting in a hotel room!!)
anyhow....what's up Feather??
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