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#233393 - 04/29/08 11:14 PM
Goodbye Philadephia !
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Among my favorite albums released this year is Peter Cincotti's " East Of Angel Town ". I've been following Cincotti's music since he first emerged on the scene showcasing jazz-pop standards. "East of Angel Town" released earlier this year marks a sharp departure as they're all Cincotti penned originals, and I believe it's the most creative thing he's released in his string of winning albums. Every song on this album hits a powerful chord and calls upon a wide variety of styles from jazz to funk to classical,. I think this album deserves a grammy. If you haven't heard it yet, please checkout this album. Cincotti's one hell of a keyboard artist and now, a terrific songwriter. Highly recommended. In fact, I'm planning to add a few songs from this album (including " Goodbye Philadephia " to my performance repetoire now. Ok, I'm really curious to dicover what current songs, recording artists, and/or albums other people on SZ are enjoying and recommend checking out. Scott [This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 04-29-2008).]
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#233395 - 04/30/08 01:02 AM
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Diki: Yeah on Jamie Cullum. Saw him at a small club here in SF. This little guy's an awesome keyboard player with a lot of talented energy. I love the way he turns jazz standards into something fresh and funky. He , like Cincotti, took a turn penning some real nice originals fusing pop & funk with Jazz on Twenty Something & Catching Tales . I concur that Cullum's music, as well as Cincotti's, satisfies me far beyond Buble's, yet, though not unexpected, it's Buble that's attracting the publicity, hype, and drawing the biggest crowds, bringing in the big CD/concert sales, and packing the stadiums , and not Cullum or Cincotti. Goes to show that ticket sales aren't necessarily an accurate of indicator of musicianship & artistic talent. Scott
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#233399 - 04/30/08 10:22 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Interesting how my posting thread merely requesting a midi file for the "Electric Slide" so quickly turned into a hijacked pissing contest of 51 replies and subsequently LOCKED, yet this thread (posted around the same time) has only 2 repliers so far. Come on people, isn't there anyone else here who listens to contemporary artists out there? As much as I love playing classic older pop standards, I also believe there are a lot of new artists and songs well worth listening to and adding to our repetoire & performances as well. Interestingly enough, over the last couple of years I've befriended a some pro arranger kb buddies around my age (late 30's- 40's) who reside in the UK and have discovered from them some UK artists who are far more popular there than here. One artist in particular who 's music I really like is Robbie Williams. He not only records some great pop hits but also released an album of american classic pop standards entitled: " Swing When You're Winning ". One of his contemporary hit ballds which I've since added to my repetoire is " Angels ", of which was merely a minor hit here, but a smash #1 hit in the UK. Meeting musicians in other parts of the Country and around the World has given me the opportunity to discover new artists and music and broaden and expand my performance repetoire. In an attempt to focus this forum back to music and not just the same tired 'pissing contests', I sure would love to hear from more members here about what new (or newly discovered) music/artists you've recently discovered and what new tunes you've added to your repetoire as a result of this. If you guys instead prefer participating in 'pissing contests' threads, I'll opt to bow out (yet again). Scott [This message has been edited by Scottyee (edited 04-30-2008).]
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#233404 - 05/01/08 12:19 PM
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Originally posted by ianmcnll: My favorite Michael Franks album is "Dragonfly Summer".
Favorite tune on it..."I love Lucy"
Ian Must be good, he's always surround him self with great musician. some of my favorite would be "Mr Blue", "St Elmo's fire", Tiger in the rain and "The lady wants to know"
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#233408 - 05/01/08 12:46 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Originally posted by ianmcnll: Pale...You have mail...hey, that rhymes.
Ian, thanks so much. nice song
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#233409 - 05/01/08 01:58 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Originally posted by Diki: Who on earth says you have to listen to what is 'popular' at the time...?
"I hate to say it, but many of you have probably forgotten what a pile of whaledreck surrounded the little music that we remember as our favorites from ANY period."
I did and I found mine
''You had to wade through some awful rubbish back then to find the nuggets, and you have to do the same now... But maybe now you haven't the patience, or the inquisitiveness, or the sheer DRIVE to try and find the best of what is around any more..."
I don't have as much patience any more, but I like what I'm listening to.
And that is a sad loss...
The internet has made it easier than it has EVER been to find artists that challenge you, music that surprises you, a new path through the same old changes. But you have to USE IT...
Rather than sit around and woolgather, and reminisce about the 'good old days' that never WERE that good! what's wrong with "good old days" btw, when you mentioned a terrific piece"A remak you've made" when Zawinul passed away, wasn't that a good old day as well......
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#233410 - 05/01/08 02:14 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Originally posted by Diki: Who on earth says you have to listen to what is 'popular' at the time...?
Rather than sit around and woolgather, and reminisce about the 'good old days' that never WERE that good! So who's the authority to say what's good and what's "'good old days' that never WERE that good!" you? Who on earth says you have to listen to "challenging, or new discovery" all the time? People listen to what they like, past, present anything sounds good.
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#233411 - 05/01/08 02:21 PM
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Donny, all I was saying that, for every one of your favorites that you remember from that era (you are too young to have actually been around during the big band and doo-wop heyday, I'm the same age as you!), there were a dozen that were not as good, hackneyed and bland, with poorer material, etc., etc.. In fact, the very music that you prefer had ALREADY gone through the filtering process of time, before you even got into it! The good remains and the bad gets forgotten. But if you listen to CONTEMPORARY music, that filter has not yet been applied. But good and interesting current music DOES exist. Unfortunately, no-one has done the filtering, yet, so you have to wade through the slime to get to the good stuff. If that's too much to have to do, you may have to wait ten or twenty years to find out what was good in the early 21st century! Me, I can't wait that long...
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#233412 - 05/01/08 02:29 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Originally posted by Shade of pale: So who's the authority to say what's good and what's "'good old days' that never WERE that good!" you?
Who on earth says you have to listen to "challenging, or new discovery" all the time? People listen to what they like, past, present anything sounds good.
Read the damn post before you get worked up, Shade... No-one said you need to listen to anything new "ALL THE TIME". You quote me, don't ADD things to what I say and then get mad about what you added! And for every tune from ANY period you like, I guarantee I can find something popular FROM THAT TIME that you hate. The 'good old days' were not without their really bad artists, songs and styles, just like today... Feel free to change what I just wrote, and get mad about that, too...
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#233413 - 05/01/08 03:23 PM
Re: Goodbye Philadephia !
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Originally posted by Diki: the very music that you prefer had ALREADY gone through the filtering process of time, before you even got into it! The good remains and the bad gets forgotten. But if you listen to CONTEMPORARY music, that filter has not yet been applied. But good and interesting current music DOES exist. Unfortunately, no-one has done the filtering, yet, so you have to wade through the slime to get to the good stuff. If that's too much to have to do, you may have to wait ten or twenty years to find out Diki, very well put. Twenty years seems about the cycle it takes to discover which songs have stood the test of time to become standards. 80's and early 90's pop hits are suddenly back in demand (high school/college reunion parties etc) and I'm getting quite a few requests for this era now. Here are just a few of the ones I do : Red Red Wine (UB40) I Swear (All4One / John Michael Montgomery) Dance The Night Away (Mavericks) Kokomo (Beachboys) You Can't Hurry Love/Groovy Kind Of Love (Phil Collins) Fields Of Gold (Sting) Right Here Waitin For You (Richard Marx) Every Breath I Take (the Police) Stuck In The Middle With You (Stealers Wheel) Tear In Heaven/ Wonderful Tonight (Eric Clapton) Come Dancing (the Kinks) If You Don't Know Me By Now (Simply Red) Good Thing (Fine Young Cannibals) Scott
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#233415 - 05/01/08 07:20 PM
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Originally posted by Diki: Read the damn post before you get worked up, Shade...
No-one said you need to listen to anything new "ALL THE TIME". You quote me, don't ADD things to what I say and then get mad about what you added!
And for every tune from ANY period you like, I guarantee I can find something popular FROM THAT TIME that you hate. The 'good old days' were not without their really bad artists, songs and styles, just like today...
Feel free to change what I just wrote, and get mad about that, too...
yes, I've read the damn post, I don't get mad, just amusing.......I actually don't care to have an approval to what I like or listen to......you have your opinion, guess what,. other people have theirs as well
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#233416 - 05/01/08 07:44 PM
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and just because I mentioned some old stuff, it didn't mean I don't listen to new ace, I listen to "Pete Levin" on B3, and Russell Malone as much as I listen to Jimmy Smith, and Kenny Burrell.......to me the "old stuff" still sounds good, so I listen to it. Interesting, some of the new rock/pop stuff that I like(The Wall Flowers, Maroon 5 for example) sound like formular from late 60 or 70's to me.
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#233418 - 05/01/08 08:00 PM
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Originally posted by brickboo: I've never heard of these guys, but I don't think I'd like any one alive more than I like Steve Tyrell. He' been doing music for movies and producing for others for years but he himself has just become more famous doing vocals in the last decade I think. Love all Steve Tyrell's stuff, I like his voice, he gave new rendition to old stuff, his rendition of "The nearness of you" is awesome.BTW, from DNJ's post I went to listen to Patrizio ?'s version of "you're my world" pretty boy can sing, so thanks for that.
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#233419 - 05/01/08 08:22 PM
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I agree with Donny, I love Patricio and the music he has brought back. And in my opinion, there is nothing better than Sinatra, who I saw on many occasions from 1974 on, Tony Bennett, whom I've seen many times and been photographed with, and the Do Wop era, I played for the Terry Johnson Flamingoes and Bobby Cook Platters during the 70's. This is music that IMO can't be beat. I will love it till the day I die. On with the music! Joe ------------------ Songman55 Joe Ayala
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#233420 - 05/01/08 08:26 PM
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Sorry I almost forgot the beginning of this thread. Scott, I saw Peter Cincotti a couple of years ago at the Meyerhoff Symphony Hall in Baltimore. His show was great and he was really cool. When he was sitting down to the piano for a couple of songs, a cell phone in the audience went off and without missing a beat he said, "If it's for me I'm not here." Later that evening we met him and bought him a drink. He is a really nice and very talented young man. Ciao, Joe ------------------ Songman55 Joe Ayala
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#233422 - 05/02/08 12:17 AM
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And the whole point of listening to the best of today's music (if you can be bothered to find it! ), is NOT to replace the music you already love, it is to ADD to it... That's the beauty of music. You don't have to STOP loving one kind of music, just to be able to like another. Perhaps some of us can remember our attitudes towards the previous generation, whether our parents or grandparents, or much older musicians, that simply could NOT get into 'modern music', and decried it as 'utter rubbish'. Perhaps it was the Beatles being mocked. or Sinatra (remember, he was widely criticized for his crooning by the previous generation), but you probably remember the scorn you heaped on these 'unhip' 'Squaresville' 'fuddy-duddies'. It's our turn now... do we try to be BETTER than those we scorned, or do we join them? Do we become the very thing we hated as youngsters? Closed-minded relics incapable of recognizing talent when we heard it? Unwilling to give anything new an even break? Or do keep an open mind, and a sense of inquisitiveness that our predecessors somehow lost? It's OUR turn, now...
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#233424 - 05/02/08 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by Songman55: Scott, I saw Peter Cincotti a couple of years ago at the Meyerhoff Symphony Hall in Baltimore. His show was great and he was really cool. When he was sitting down to the piano for a couple of songs, a cell phone in the audience went off and without missing a beat he said, "If it's for me I'm not here."
Hi Joe, sounds like quite a memorable concert experience to cherish. I saw Cincotti at a small club here in SF when the general public hadn't even heard of him yet. Most of the audience was under 45. Like you pointed out, he's very approachable, unassuming and friendly. Interestingly to learn that his Mom was his piano teacher. I especially like Cincotti's fresh updated arrangements of the standards: "I Love Paris" and "Bali Hai". I was honestly surprised to discover what a terrific songwriter he is as well and love how he successfully merges classical instruments (harpsichord) on "Witches Brew" and adds Bach like melodic riffs on "Make It Out of Life". Every song on "East Of Angel Town" tells a powerfully different story. Other favs of mine on that album and which I find particularly moving are: "December Boys" and the "Country Life" . . . hell , I love the ENTIRE album, and can't recommend it enough. Really interested to find out what other people's opinion here is after hearing it. This said, I believe there's still a lot of terrific new music being produced out there today. All you need to do is keep your ears open. - Scott
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#233425 - 05/02/08 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Dnj: for me I have no need for todays so called Music except for a few well done covers of my beloved 40/50/60/70's songs
Long Live the 40/50/60/70's forever So, at least one vote for becoming what we hated (back then, in the 'good old days')... Just curious, Donny, but, back then, how DID you feel about those that cast scorn, and had no time or patience, for the Vanilla Fudge, or the James Gang, the Beatles, The Stones, Led Zeppelin because it was new and different...?
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