Enough talk about whether players from OTHER 76-ers would change to a 76 Tyros or S900.

One simple question. IF Yamaha made a 76 Tyros or S900, with the exact same features, would you consider one?

Current Tyros users ONLY, please (not ex-Tyros users).

Just curious. Let's do our OWN market research...

Yes.
I have a Motif XS7 (as well as Tyros 2) 'cos I want 76 keys. Do I really need 76 keys? Perhaps not but I feel better. Who expected keyboard players to be logical?
Keith

Yes, I like to play full keyboard piano on my Ty2, often using open 9ths/10ths in the left hand so could do with the room and the better balance you get between L&R hand when swingin' at a wider stretch.
Ty3 allegedly has a better piano voice.
To a certain extent IMO that will be a bit of a waste of potential with only 61 keys (and only a "simple" sound system)

John (Home Player)

[This message has been edited by jwyvern (edited 05-22-2008).]

Let me put it this way, Diki...if Yamaha ONLY made a 76 note S900(or Tyros) I would buy it, but having those extra 15 keys isn't necessary for my needs.

Ian

NO....I have NO need to lug a 76 key arranger around for my needs for everyday gigs......in the studio or for home use is another story.btw didnt we do this a few weeks ago?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 05-22-2008).]

Yes, absolutely,

Also, remember it is not graded hammer action, so it would not be much larger or heavier for you giggers.

Home use only at this time.
Lee

Does this mean Yamaha is considering offering one?
Lee

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No, simply because it wouldn't fit in the trunk of my car. If my car had a wider trunk, the answer would be an unenthusiastic yes.

Beakybird

Not for at least three years...unless they do a 76 note S-series, which is doubtful.

Ian

They could allways do a T3 pro someday next year...

And yes i will consider any 76 modell arranger that fits my needs (replacing both my 61 key arranger and my 88 key stage piano)

Not very likely...but nothing is impossible, I guess.

My suggestion...buy a Korg PA2Xpro if you need a 76 note arranger.

They seem to get great reviews, at least here on SZ.

Ian

YES, but on ONE Condition . . . the 76 keys would have to fit within the confines of the 'current T2' overall length dimension. - Scott

The current piano sound on the Tyros 2 s900 does not make it worth it for me to have 76 keys. Granted, there are other reasons for having 76 keys apart from the piano sound. But, if the piano sound is indeed improved on the T3, then yes I'd definitely buy the nex PSR-S keyboard that had 76 keys. I would not buy a Tyros because I use my arranger mostly for fun and like having the built-in speakers.

What you are saying that if they don't sell red jeeps (Only blue and black jeeps), you just buy a red Chevy... its all the same as long as the color is red.


Some people just love the smell of yamaha above the "st...."of Korg in the morning.. while still being professional musicians that have need for 76 keys. Those are the people that would love a 76 key yamaha...

Ahhhh...sniff sniff...mmmm...t'would appear that Yamaha is only making arranger fragrances for the "home user" not the "professional".

Your olfactory sense must be satisfied with the scent of Korgian perfume, or none at all.

Ian

The question was meant to infer that Yamaha STILL made a 61, but if they made a 76 AS WELL, which would you chose..?

Size and weight? Well, the T2 is already a fairly light, keyboard, no reason to assume that they would go overboard. The Roland E60 is a well built 76 with a keybed at LEAST as good as the T2. It weighs 28 lb. No doubt Yamaha could do as well as Roland, if they wanted to...

The E60 is only a tad under 5 inches wider than a T2.

And neither do i think that the costs of a 76 version would be much higher then a 61 key version... not more then $20.. and having to start another production line... well if only 1000 more people would buy a 76 key Yamaha, they's earned back the production line...

Most of all, a sattisfied customer will stick to a brand...

Come on, let's be reasonable...

Look at the difference between a 61 Motif and a 76.

That's likely the price hike.

And PLEASE....

JUST current Tyros and S900 users.

We've already discussed if you would switch to a 76 Yamaha...

'What if there were no hypothetical questions?' – George Carlin

Sorry, Diki...I couldn't resist!

Ian

a confirmed Tyros2 musician/entertainer(05/16/08) :



Scott

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Scotty rockin TYROS 2 Style great pic buddy!!!

I am a Tyros2 and S900 owner ( besides the PA800 and SD5), I guess really depends on the needs of the Player, for myself, have made the transition from the Organ, the Console Organs have usually 2(sometimes 3 Keyboards) that are 61 keys each, to me, is fine 61, BUT now that I am taking PIANO lesson, I can understand the predicament that the players coming from the Piano into keyboards.
For now, I am please and happy with 61 keys and as long they provide an Octave shift control that I wish be more like the KORGS in the Yamaha, if you tap either the up or down more than one time, the octave will do also in the KORGS....not in the Yamaha, I know, there is a way but you have to go into the Mixer window and change it there, that defeats the purpose to have a dedicated button, to me, it works BETTER in the way Korg made it to have MORE Octave RANGE.


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mdorantes

You can add at least another 2 or 3 noughts onto that to break even.

Bill

My next board will be a PA2X - to compliment my PA800 - ooops...sorry

Yes i would probably buy if Tyros 3 were 76

I chose G70 just over 3 years ago because of that

61 keys is dare i say ridiculous for such a high priced k/b , i did have a KN6000/7000 but was always running out of notes a right pita

76 is just about OK stil lcould do with a few more than that on some tunes

61 is OK for organ setups as you have 2 manuals plenty of space for both hands , but sharing 2 hand parts on 61 is too tight for my liking

Guys - I would stick w/61 keys. The size of the T2 is an issue. I am not a concert pianist by any means. So I have grown comfortable w/the T2 as it is. I always have the "octave button" on the right side - perhaps that's why I've never really felt deprived. Same as the sax... when you wanna go higher...just push the button. HA HA.

I am comfortable w/61 keys. All my boards so far have been 61's. Also, I think a 76-key board would be too giant in my recording and computer setup. I have a small room and the extra foot or so would make a difference.

Randy

I'll wait... Although in the meantime Roland will have released a successor to the G-70, Korg will have released a successor to the Pa2xPRO, and even the Ketron Audya may finally be out in three years. So my point is: The longer Yammie waits to re-enter the 76 key high-end arranger market the harder they will have to work to play catch up to Roland, Korg, and Ketron, as far as gaining a foothold and establishing themselves again in that market segment. Yammie who?? Oh, yes..yes.. the company that makes only 61 key totl arrangers. That company.. (Conversation with the Public): Sorry chap.. I have no need for them (Yamaha) now. Korg, Roland and Ketron are meeting everybodies 76 key high end needs and Yammie is virtually an unknown and untested liability at this point as far as 76 keys go, and what, if at all, they could put together and muster up in the way of 76 keys seeing how they're out of practice in the art of 76 key totl arrangers and all. And unless they could make a 76 key for the same price (or less) as their ultra expensive 61 keyers go for it would be a wonder to behold if they could get more than just a few at best to buy them.

In other words, they would have to convince people that they were in it for the long haul and not choke up and quit again when they happen to run into a few obstacles or glitches, like they did with the 9000PRO; having left owners of the 9000PRO abandoned of support within a short period of time of its release. They should stick with it through thick or thin just like they do with their Synth line, or not get in the game at all in my opinion. Again, I'll wait and see what transpires in 3 years but needless to say, with Yammies current record of "non-existent" 76 key high or mid-end arrangers I can't hold out much hope of them changing their ways and therefore I won't hold my breath waiting for it to happen. They will need to be very competitive price wise and with all other things taken into consideration as well; like the weight, and quality features like PRO Vocal Harmony and PRO quality Drum kits, etc. or else they need not bother.

But in regards to Diki's original question; yes, I would definitely consider getting a 76 Tyros i.e. (high end arranger whatever name Yamaha chooses to give it ). In fact, I'll do better then that. I would be first IN LINE to get a Yamaha 76 key high end arranger. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif[/img] And even better still, I put forth this declaration before Yamaha (actually Steve Deming who is Yamaha's eyes and ears on this forum [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/wink.gif[/img]) that if Yamaha would be willing to make a "prototype" production 76 key Tyros, etc. that I would be more than willing to beta test it for them under real world conditions and gladly give my time and energy working it through its paces and then give my final analysis of the outcome, and also my personal honest opinion on Yamaha's 'experimental' 76 key beast totl arranger, if they were willing to do so. I would even be willing to pay them for the opportunity to do so. How's that for willingness. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] And the reason I would do it is because I would really like to see Yamaha succeed once again in the 76 key totl arranger market arena. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/cool.gif[/img]

Best,
Mike



[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 05-23-2008).]

Yes, I'd definitely consider, as long as it didn't add 6-8 more lbs (pounds weight) to the total weight ...

Jim
[S900 owner]

Common just go buy a 9000PRO probably dirt cheap now & dump the T2 styles in it.... not perfect but will sooth the 76 craziness for the next decade of Yamaha's unwillingness to evade another 76 key arranger for reasons unknown to mankind for now.
http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM01/Content/Yamaha/PR/9000Pro.html





[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 05-23-2008).]

Donny: Forgetaboutit!

50+ lbs + case = 75+ lbs weight, and with its unecessaryily long length its too awkward to transport. If and when Yamaha produces a 76 note keyboard, it should be the size (dimensions) and weigh no more (and preferably less) than the 76 note SD1 (36.5 lbs). - Scott

Scott weight isn't everyone's concern especially if you dont play out.
Good Speakers weigh approx 50lbs x2 for stereo My Cubes weight 60 each so what? so where is the reasoning?....personal preference prevails ....how much does 76 keys matter to people .....read the posts. It aint for me but could be the cats meow for the next guy.

I bnet that Tyros 9 will also have a Tyros 9 pro version

Tyros 9 ?

Yes, you know...the one after Tyros8.

Bachus is planning on getting one.