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#238151 - 07/16/08 08:38 PM
Re: new pieces added !!
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
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All I have to say is Yamaha needs to get a clue and start building their bloody pro arrangers better. When I played the Tyros II, I was impressed with the sounds, styles, ect..., but geez I could not get past that cheap plastic body and cheap buttons. The key action was like butter though. There's no excuse for a $3,500 pro arranger to be built so cheaply.
I highly doubt Yamaha will change the construction quality of the Tyros III. People complained about it on the first model, they didn't listen, and most likely will build the new model with the same cheapness.
I know I'll take heat from T2 owners, but if you want to see what I'm talking about.., put your hands on a Yamaha Motif and compare the quality there.
[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 07-17-2008).]
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#238156 - 07/17/08 12:19 AM
Re: new pieces added !!
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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Beaky, that's not strictly a vibrato, but more of a tremolo, done only on the Irish Bagpipe (or Uilleann Pipes), not the Scottish ones, in general, and is done by fluttering your fingers over open lower holes on the chanter. But it is definitely a sound that is not employed to every note in a phrase, but picked and chosen carefully, like a good use of the Leslie... (and if some notes require most of your fingers, you have none to spare for the flutter). Absolutely NEVER on just about every note, like the Yamaha demo. Check out some early music by the Chieftains, for some pretty authentic playing (amongst many others )
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#238159 - 07/17/08 06:50 AM
Re: new pieces added !!
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Registered: 10/08/00
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Loc: West Virginia
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If the vibrato is part of the raw sample you can't change it. Now if the vibrato was simply applied by the makers use of the internal LFO settings, then you can go into patch edit and adjust this. Over the years I've noticed that (primarily on arrangers by all the makers) patches are being produced with fixed LFO's on acoustic instruments. My only assumption is that the keyboard makers go on their own assumption that the average arranger player doesn't use patch editing on their keyboards. I think that's true to a certain point.., as arrangers have always been known for that "out of box" sound. I'm sure many players here don't go too deep into patch editing on their arrangers too, but loading a keyboard with samples that have fixed LFO's is a bit too much. I can understand if the average arranger player may not go in and twist up a patch beyond all reason, but I'm quite sure many arranger players have a basic understand of adjusting the LFO or vibrato setting on patches.
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