Donny called me..panic set in..He has 300 dancers on the floor and his Tyros decided to take an nap....He wanted me to drive down with the G70..

You can expect trade considerations coming soon..

Any of you folks that want to "dump" a heavy G70...there may be a deal to be made here.....Like a Tyros and a pair of Yamaha MS60's..for a clunky G70...


Donny has his stand by....his laptop, but because he runs his mic through a sleeping Tyros...he will have to use a dry mic plugged directly into an amp...


He will be back on line at midnight....playing .."let's make a deal"..

LOL - I knew it was a matter of time A used T1 acting up? Sorry to hear that.

Whew!!!made it through the gig.. OK all is well now....seems that the new hard drive I installed doesn't integrate well with the Tyros for some unknown reason & when utilized to access a SMF or Files, etc LOCKS up the keyboard even after a reboot also Argggg!. After realizing the problem I opened it up & just removed the hard drive from the unit and its working fine again........no problems for now I dont need a hard drive.....
Roland or Yamaha please hurry with the next model



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 07-24-2008).]

I don't think there's a hope in hell that Roland are going to bring out anything that will make you comfortable, Donny.

Firstly, it WILL be too heavy. It WON'T sound anything like a Yamaha, it won't operate anything like a Yamaha, it won't have styles that are anything like a Yamaha, and did I say it will be heavier than a Yamaha?

If you want to go the Roland route, I'd suggest a used E60 (should have got Fran's ). Most of what you like, a lot less weight. Use a Digitech for vocals, you're in business... Only 26 lbs. - about half the weight of an E80

Diki weight? I'm carrying 2 Ck100's now each are more then a G70.........put down your crystal ball & wait like the rest of us....I've used them all....I have no loyalty....if it serves my needs I buy it....if it starts to annoy me it gets chucked simple as that. Time will tell...one thing for certain....
I'll be, making music regardless...

Carry on

You've repeatedly criticized the G70 for it's weight. Either it matters or it doesn't, Donny

Like I said, I don't think (or hope!) the new G-series will be enough of a change from the G70 for it to interest you. If you didn't flip over the G70, you're not going to flip over any new one. Roland arrangers have ALWAYS sounded like Roland arrangers. Just as Yamaha's have always sounded pretty similar for quite a while, Korg, Ketron, etc..

And while features come and go, overall OS's and modes of operation don't change that much, either. Operating a G70 is pretty similar to fifteen year old OS's, and likewise for Yamaha. Things get added, things get deleted, but pretty much on the whole, they don't change that much, and even more so for Yamaha, IMO...

Sure, Roland could surprise us... they've done it before Are they likely to? With the pretty lackluster lineup of WS's out at the moment... I don't think so. With nothing earth-shatteringly new in the WS division, where is anything groundbreaking going to come from? Thin air? Roland have always leveraged existing product's technology to drive their arrangers, from MT-32's and Sound Canvases, to FantomX's, TD-Drums, VK Organs and now Sonic Cells.

Without a next generation sound source, where is a next generation arranger (like the T2) going to come from?

I will always do so Diki....let me correct you, WEIGHT & SIZE.... mostly the latter ! No need for it....its an AWKWARD Beast of a KB to Lug around no way around that....when its right for my needs I use it, if it aint, Bye Bye simple as that, contrary to your all knowing beliefs. In a studio setting, no problem for sure....all this is no relevance to the G70's excellent features of which I really enjoyed playing....too bad.

The TYROS keyboard is in Mint cond.I bought the HD on eBay so who knows if its any good? Floppies are fine for the few times I'll need them.........meanwhile I'll look for a compatible one to use down the road people have told me to use a much smaller one like a 4G vs the 40G I tried?.


[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 07-25-2008).]

A great stallion for a wounded horse? How much can I get for this wonderous keyboard I seem to possess? I get email solicitations every week reagarding my E60. I'm sure glad I've held on to it. It doesn't have two important G70 features - the harmonizer and the inspiration factor - but other than that it's a great arranger. It is a 76 and it is light - lovin' it!

And, I do have a Digitech Vocalist IV to go with it.

$800-$900 I would say for a used E60

Oooh, you burst my bubble. I thought someone would give me about twice that, so I could just step back into a G70 with little output. Was I dreaming ? Again

Yes Cass you were definitly DREAMING
sorry this is the real world
You Snooze you Lose in this game



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 07-25-2008).]

Cass, you turned down a trade...A mint Tyros and a pair of clean MS60's for your E-60 and your harmonizer....That was a 2 grand deal..

You could have sold the Tyros package and picked up a clean G70...

Zzzzzzzzz...

Oh, what?... Sorry, I was downstairs playing on my E60.

That deal never came MY way that way. In any case, I'm out of the Yamaha market for now. As for sale of my E60, my comments were made in jest, so don't get down too hard on me - I'm actually pretty knowledgeable of the market. Besides, I'm doing my best to hold on to a keyboard for longer than a month or two this time, and so far it's working.

I appreciate everyone's (?) interest in the E60, but IT AIN'T FOR SALE. The more I work with it, the better I like it. Too bad Roland chose not to market this baby properly because in the long run it's got everything you need. You can't always get what you want...

Peace out.

Cass,
I feel the same way about the E 80. In the beginning and for a few months I didn't like it much but at this point I will prolly keep it forever because it just does everything and really does it well
Bebop

Cass thats why I left my cell #

No problem Donny. You know I would have called you had I actually been interested. I realize everything is preliminary until it is finalized. Hey, this is fun! You got anything else we can banter about?

No Cass........too late now wheels are in motion on the big E.....