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#241979 - 09/08/08 11:10 PM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
chony Offline
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Registered: 03/10/04
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
Can't answer your question at this time, Gary...we are all waiting for hands on and more info.

Ian


I read the manual so I can answer it. No you will not be able to download SA or SA2 instruments in the future for the T3.

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#241980 - 09/08/08 11:12 PM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
Burkels Offline
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Registered: 02/06/04
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Loc: Alkmaar, The Netherlands, Euro...
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:
As for real, live drums, the ones where the guy sitting on the drum throne is slamming those sticks as hard as he can on everything within reach--


Well there you have it. You can't judge keyboard-drums, since you've never played with a real drummer before. Your description is ridiculous.
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#241981 - 09/09/08 02:55 AM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:
Well sports fans, if you don't like the drum sounds, you can always tune them until they sound the way you think they should sound. It's not neurosurgery, but you will have to take the instruction manual out of the zip-loc bag, open it up, then read the section on tuning styles. You can make those drums as hot or soft as you like--it's easy.


Ah, the old Wersi argument. "Sorry we sell it sounding crap, maybe you can make it better?" I don't buy it. Those drums should be knocking us flat on our back right out of the box, especially after all the hype this 'board has had.

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#241982 - 09/09/08 03:17 AM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by chony:
I read the manual so I can answer it. No you will not be able to download SA or SA2 instruments in the future for the T3.



Thanks Chony...my lazyitus got the better of me.

The Tyros3 will load samples, nevertheless...very handy...Scott Yee posted a link to some cool ones on another thread...they are for the T2, but I imagine they'll work fine in the T3.

Those great T3 demos are a good indication that Yamaha has another winner...but, it's probably best to reserve full judgement until we get to play it.

Yamaha is such a tease.

Ian
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#241983 - 09/09/08 03:54 AM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by travlin'easy:
Well sports fans, if you don't like the drum sounds, you can always tune them until they sound the way you think they should sound. It's not neurosurgery, but you will have to take the instruction manual out of the zip-loc bag, open it up, then read the section on tuning styles. You can make those drums as hot or soft as you like--it's easy.


Well put, Gary.

The thing to remember, is Yamaha has it's own sound...and, judging by the great number of dedicated users, it is a well liked sound.

Not for everybody...that's why Roland and Korg have their dedicated following, and well they should...they make fine sounding instruments.

It's nice to have choices...it's nice to have differences.

It's nice to own a Yamaha.

Ian
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#241984 - 09/09/08 03:56 AM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
jwyvern Offline
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Registered: 09/06/06
Posts: 365
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Originally posted by chony:
I thought Yamaha would really use the "Super Articulation" feature on the drums. For example, to adjust mic pick-up between drums, or snare fuzz using the mod wheels or buttons...

I thought they would definitely do it. It just made so much sense after what they've already done with their SA sounds to make them realistic...

Very sad...



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#241985 - 09/09/08 11:49 AM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
trident Offline
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Registered: 08/22/04
Posts: 1457
Loc: Athens, Greece
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Anyone please tell me why I like this music so much? As long as I can remember myself, I actually ADORED this music style, those organ sounds... I wasn't exposed to this music through parents or anything (never had this music in Greece) but as soon as I heard something like that on the radio, I was feeling good.

Anyway, time for my pills
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#241986 - 09/09/08 01:54 PM Re: Another new Tyros3 demo on Yammie's website...
squeak_D Offline
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Registered: 10/08/00
Posts: 4715
Loc: West Virginia
To date.., I can't understand why Yamaha doesn't include higher quality drum samples on their high end arrangers. Another member brought up a good point when comparing the current Tyros2's drums to the Motif XS. The difference is NIGHT AND DAY.

It's simple as this guys..., The DRUMS AND BASS 99.99% are the foundation of a good style. You could have a mega voice, sweet, cool, live, or even SA voice done perfectly on the other tracks, but if the DRUMS and the bass are lacking..., then the style is weaker. Even if the drums patterns are done well..., they won't sound all that great with weak samples.

There's NO reason why Yamaha can't include the quality of the MotifXS's drum kits on the Tyros. Tyros owners should be PISSED..., and you guys really should. Yamaha takes all of the great Sweet, Cool, Live, Mega, and SA voices from the arranger line..., adds those to their TOP SYNTH (but changes a few names), but they WILL NOT GO THE OTHER DIRECTION. That's messed up!

Personally I think Roland's drums really get the job done. The problem with Yamaha is they don't have near the level of velocity switching on their kits as you find on a Roland. (I know this as I've tested them side by side) Hell my Roland RS-70 (circa. 2003) has so many drum samples with amazing layers in the drums.., and ghost notes too. Not only is the velocity switching amazing on a Roland, but some of the nuances they include are unreal.. Such as snare buzz! Even the ghost notes have a velocity switch to them...

Maybe Yamaha will finally add better MOTIF quality drums to the Tyros3.. I doubt it, but you can always hope I guess.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 09-09-2008).]
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