Yea, I go into my local Guitar Center yesterday to pick up some cables and while there I ask the guy when the T3 would be there. His answer - What's That? No one in the store knew. Go figure.

Hammer

Maybe that's why they present themselves as a GUITAR center.



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Then maybe they should stop selling all keyboards since it's a Guitar Center

If they don't know what a "T3" is, they probably should

(We don't have "Guitar Centers" here. Every city just has its own music stores. We have 4 of them in the just average sized city here )



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Guitar Centers...??? You got questions...they got blank stares!

Give Frank at Audiowerks a try...he's got answers and he is a player like us!

Lee

Their response doesn't surprise me a bit. Seriously.., they're called Guitar Center Keyboard departments in (many) stores today seem to be more of an "after-thought". Even in these large retailers such as GC and Sam Ash.

Keyboard departments are expensive to run (and to get started). All the larger retailers I've been to..., the moment you walked in there were GUITARS all over the damn place. Right there at the front door there were guitars on stands greeting customers.., BUT not one keyboard within sight from the front door. Keys are often off in the back, to the side or in a completely different room. Then when someone actually talks to you..., 9 times out of 10 it's a guitar or drum player.

You EVER NOTICE that these stores sure as hell won't hire a guitar player who can't play or a drummer who can't hold a beat..., but when it comes to keyboards you get FRICK AND FRACK metal head wanna-bes who CAN'T PLAY selling keys.... It's just nuts.

[This message has been edited by squeak_D (edited 09-16-2008).]

Look at what sells in the chain music store....the figures drive their approach....just look at a GC when you walk in the guitars & amps are all in the front of the store for a reason ......keyboards take a small room in the rear of the store...its like a placing the right Slot machine on the floor in Casinos for high traffic users. Lets face it, its ALL ABOUT MONEY....If you want information on products use your computer & ask questions your not going to learn anything in most of these stores.

I went to Guitar Center a while back to check out a Taylor 814ce , and after I went to the keyboard department , and just for the heck of it ask when they were getting the new Tyros 3.

Here`s there response " Tyros 3 ? We can special order a Tyros 2 , but I have not heard anything about a new Tyros , we have the { NEW } Motif XS if you want that" .

??????????????????????????

Like I have said . you walk into any music store in N.H. and ask if they sell arrangers , more often than not the response will be one of two:

"Arrangers ? O- you mean those keyboards that have the built in styles ? O__ we don`t carry them"

or

"We can special order you one , with a deposit , non refundable"

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Jedi...

It is.....what it is...& it ain't changing' anytime soon....lets face it arranger players are dinosaurs & a very small rare segment of the musical picture in today's modern computer driven world. Most music today is being created with gear other then arrangers....& other then using instruments that are not on a computer program. There is just too much out there to choose.....
GC and other stores will tell you the story in a nut shell just by looking inside them.....they now sell what is popular....the odd niche "that's us" searches & educates themselves and buys off the Internet. Times have definitely changed.

I don't know if there ever WAS a time when mainstream music stores were knowledgeable about arrangers (at least here in the US). Since the M1, WS's have dominated the market, and low end arrangers are sold as toys for kids at Christmas. High end arrangers, IMO, have ALWAYS been a rare breed, and those that sold them knowledgeably a rarer breed still...

BTW, when a salesman has no knowledge of an unreleased product, you can hardly blame him. His job is to sell EXISTING stock, not to talk people into waiting until a new model eventually gets there (if it ever does). A sale deferred is a sale potentially lost.

It's hard to expect any salesman to educate themselves exhaustively on arrangers (or any other product) when we all too often prove to them that their knowledge is of no value to us. If we can find the product cheaper somewhere else, we'll go there AFTER we have wasted his time, and he gets nothing for his effort.

I see it on this board, all the time. A knowledgeable dealer takes time out of his workday to answer questions, provide information, even be objective about flaws in products he sells. And then someone goes 'yeah, but can anyone tell me if they have found somewhere that sells it for less'

Would YOU bother to take the time when that is a common response? You want it cheap? Educate yourself (and be prepared to take a bath if you get it wrong). If you want qualified advice, technical help, honest forthright dealer opinion?

PAY SOMETHING FOR IT, YOU CHEAP SON OF A B...CH!

You expect to get paid for your 'pro' work. And the better you play and entertain, the more you expect for YOUR work. Why doesn't this extend to salesmen and dealers?