With that audience I'd use the "onboard" speakers!

I was thinking about doing a huge stage show using one of the super-arrangers. I sing also and communicate well with an audience.

Then again.....I've been thinking about doing it for about 30 years now, so at this point I don't think it's going to happen in this lifetime.

So much for my "wall of sound" too. I'll leave that to Evel Knievel...motorcycle stunt man extroadinaire!

Roland has it. See the E80 feature:
http://www.rolandkeyboardclub.com/upload_area/os_updater/14_06/E-80_Addendum%20190407_6l.pdf

Greetings
Peter

Still not sure what you’re after here.
If you have every setting in a preset, (Most users operate like that) for each song, then all you have to do when choosing that song (Preset) is move the drum slider up/down. (Hardly any extra work as you wouldn’t be playing at the time)

Bill

As I said, I'm a bit lazy (plus I use registration changes DURING songs to change my keyboard setups, sometimes, or at least go back to the initial setup after a change during the song). I guess I would like to not HAVE to do it for every single registration, every single time I change them, for a whole evening!

It's obviously not the most pressing need, but it might be nice...

And sorry, but the E80 feature simply adds a bass boost to the kick drum and bass part. Not quite what I'm after (although it's handy as you turn down for that 'loudness button' effect), which is an overall rise of the whole drum part...

Perhaps some of you don't play with live players much, but trust me... add a guitarist or two, maybe a horn player as well, and your carefully crafted mix will rapidly disappear as the drums get swamped...

Could you have the drums come out of the 3 and 4 outputs (I can't remember what they call these on Yamahas) - that is, have the drums come out of the extra set of output jacks, then have a little mixer - and you can make the drums any volume - and leave 'em that way ... for your show?

This is something I did with my Technics KN-7000: I had drums and bass come out of outs 3 and 4, and the rest of the keyboard out of 1 and 2. Then I could turn up (or down) my "rhythm section" (drums + bass) very easily if I sensed they needed a tweak in a given hall, with the band crankin', etc.

I think you can do this on Tyros as well ... it does however require a couple of extra cables plus a small mixer ... but give some nice real-time, live flexibility

No... on pretty much most arrangers, anything sent to auxiliary outputs loses all it's effects. You can't add reverb at the mixer, because then it becomes one global amount added to the entire kit, washing the kick with too much, or missing the percussion with too little, etc..

And I run stereo, before you say pan the kick to one side and the rest to the other!

As far as I can see, adding a global offset to a particular part doesn't seem to be an insurmountable technical challenge. It just remains to be seen if the demand for the feature is great enough for anyone (particularly Yamaha ) to add it...

It might, at least, go a long way towards making the 'no punch' Yamaha critics have an easy solution (or at least, partial solution) to the problem...

I think Ketron came up with the best solution for drums. Sample real players and real drums and sync to the rest of the style.
It was easy to do because drums do not have to follow chord progressions...

I am a little biased with this remark, since I am a former demo guy and did a dvd for Ketron, but it is one of the reasons I have always enjoyed my SD1 & SD1plus.

"Live Drums"...

Still doesn't address when you sometimes want them a bit louder than normal.

I think the Roland drums are also very 'live' sounding, but at least you can edit those, and use the kits to create new rhythms.

A loop is a loop is a loop. Better HAVE to love it, because you can't do a darn thing to it if you don't

You can edit.. Each and every drum part ..and instantly save your setting without going to a registration.

All drum parts on all 307 styles can be tweaked & changed & saved, without losing the original setting.

Ketron even stored every sound and every style as a master folder on the 6 gig harddrive, in case you ever have to or want to reload original settings.

I am happy you like your roland drums.

I don't own one anymore, BUT the Korg has 5 (or mebbe 6) different drum maps available on any style, so at the touch of a button you can change the entire drum map.

Now this is the part I cannot remember fully, BUT I think you can set an assignable switch, or a footswitch to change the drum map on the fly??? although I really cannot remember, I used to just change a drum map and save it to a user slot, without worrying about changing it live.

So, you could setup 2 drum maps (editable) for a style..1 being the normal and the 2 being the same kit, but with all the velocities upped by say 8 or 10...

Dennis