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#243743 - 10/03/08 01:39 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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What mind...?

(You KNOW I'm kidding? ,)

"Friends don't let friends sell keyboards they shouldn't"

I rest my case...
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#243744 - 10/03/08 06:19 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
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Fran's not happy unless he's dealing something. It's part of his charm!
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#243745 - 10/03/08 07:50 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4724
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Be interesting to know those strokes...


I mean... what's the MUSICAL difference between someone who prefers the Korg sound, and someone who prefers Roland, Yamaha, whatever....



The musical difference for me is:

I play arranger style only. It took me 6 months before I introduced this to my audience (I know, some go out the next day with their new toy). I am particular and specific in my songs - everything has to be perfect (I'm just that way). Every completed song on this board is different from the next. This is what I find enjoyable. I can do patriotic with marches and sort and they sound as if from a different board - fantastic. I can do country and this board sounds like the real deal. I can do big band and it is superb. (Let me say, a serenade style for Moonlight Serenade will not take a back seat vs the recent T3 demo). Use the same serenade style for Aint Misbehavin', use different variations and fills, come in with a trombone lead and it blow your mind. Worked out A-Train. Check out the aritculated vibes that work throughout the style. Worked out All Of Me - the beautiful swing organ knocks my socks off. On Night and Day, I mimicked Frank Sinatra's string version - it makes me wanna cry - talk about elegance Lay out Just The Way, Your Song and other slower work and they are equally as soft and beautiful. Next, I jump to Queen's Thing Called Love and it plain out rocks, as do other uptempo. Did I mention they all sound different? I figure that when I have a song perfected, it's always going to be top notch. I don't just throw something to the wind as good enough.

1. We've talked about drums. The drums are awesome, no doubt, but it's more than that. It's the total makeup of a style - the richness, fullness, articulated instrumentation and incredible flexibility withing variations, intros and endings.

2. The harmonizer - it works like a charm and it is available with the touch at all times. Mine is programmed to stay on or off with each key stroke.

3. The sounds - subjective. Great enough.

4. Keybed - very good enough for me.

5. On board speakers - can I say more - some like, some not.

6. Pads - useable and linked in time, at all times.

I can go on and on. It's been hashed out many times before. Everyone has their own ears. I'm of a handful that plays live with the 800 and different for me has been good.

Have fun everyone with what you choose.

zuki
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#243746 - 10/03/08 08:01 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Zuki your excitement is all well & good, I'm happy for you, but means nothing on a forum unless you show on video or demo even a little bit of what your talking about. I dont want to sound rude but,People can say anything & claim anything they want about KB's on here, but it has to be HEARD, after all it's the MUSIC produced that is the most important thing right?
Btw how's you website coming along, online yet?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-03-2008).]

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#243747 - 10/03/08 08:52 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
Posts: 4724
: I was wondering how long you'd take to post this reply

Maybe one day is what I'll say. I still run my chemical business and it's difficult to get all accomplished.

I can say that I've booked many jobs to date for next year and did not need demos to do so. It's about time mgmt my friend.

I look at it this way. No player's chops will convince another to buy a keyboard. Look at the fabulous demonstrators in this world. They play their hearts out only to have constant criticism about the product - I'd get the same response, so I will remain without demos.
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#243748 - 10/03/08 09:56 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Zuki...
I dont claim to be the best player in the world either but I have posted some tunes in the past when needed .......but lets face it & this is not geared toward you alone Zuki, but to all here in general...
we can talk till the cows come home & if no one at least puts up the main ingredient to what they are talking about & pounding their chest about even a small smidgen worth it leaves a BIG GAP in the conversation & thought process. Not only that, it leaves the reader scratching his head saying "Crap, I dont know what to think now?" because this one says this.....that one says that....
ahhhhh whats the use?
carry on in your confusement & wonder

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-03-2008).]

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#243749 - 10/03/08 10:20 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
The E-60 is no longer available..I cancelled Ebay...I have decided to keep it....since there is nothing out there that can replace it..and do what it does...not to mention compatibility with the G70...

I now know that there is a market for the E-60..if the time comes for me to move it..with 145 hits and 6 watchers on Ebay, and numerous emails...my question was answered..the E-60 is very marketable..
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#243750 - 10/03/08 11:13 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
BTW: Diki and Bart were the only people to remind me not to sell the E-60..
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#243751 - 10/03/08 11:32 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
adimatis Offline
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1162
Loc: Oradea, RO
well, i didn't even bother fran because i knew you wont sell it after all!
otoh, your decission to keep it is just like you would purchase the E60 the third time, isn't it?

i say you did good not selling it!
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#243752 - 10/03/08 11:44 AM Re: Anyone interested in my E-60?
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
I forgot to mention..a few days ago I played the new Roland Juno Stage (76 keys)..

The stage has all the goodies from the Juno G, and many goodies of it's own...

First off..the key feel is much better than the Juno G (I hated playing my Juno G)..Roland added metal weights under the keys..reminds me of the older workstations..D-70, JV1000, and XP80...I may as well add the Fantom X....since I owned all of them...

The compact size and 76 keys are a plus..at 21 pounds..

The display is nicer than the Juno G..

The added goodies are the mic with phantom power...MP3/wav/midi player...999 songs, I believe...It did not read my thumb drive folders..only the non folder tunes..unlike the Roland RD700gx..that unit read every folder and sub folder..same with the 300gx..

The Stage makes a decent controller for the studio too..it has a single button push to make it a USB controller...

It is a shame that Roland did not include a USB Audio interface to go with the USB MIDI interface...as the Sonic Cell has...

When I put my E-60 on Ebay ..I was considering the Juno Stage and GW8...after playing the Stage and reading the manuals including the GW...I am thoroughly convinced the E-60 to be superior over both...save the MP3/Wave player..the E-60 is better in every other feature...

Of course the E-60 lacks the mic input too..

key feel and playability is slightly better on the E compared to the Stage..

The E-60 is 7 pounds more with a touch screen and speakers..

The lyric read and make up tools..makes the E-60 much..much more desirable..

And the one feature that I keep going back to the E-60..the drum kits are simply the best...

After I played the Stage...it made me more reluctant to sell the E-60..

Thanks Diki, and Bart..for the reminder..
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