Before I get a bid on Ebay....

Email me...

http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/Forum37/HTML/018155.html

I rest my case...

Somebody must be expecting a GW-8! lol

Fran's going to miss those Makeup Tools if that's the case...

I haven't seen a darn thing about style compatibility with the E- and G-series, and conversion (if possible) is going to have to be done with that clunky looking PC software.

That's one of the things that keeps me a die hard G70 fan... those style and SMF editing tools are BY FAR the best in the industry. And if working with conversion styles and older styles is important to you, the WAY you edit those things is critical to avoid it being such a tedious process that you just plain give up (or sound like hell!)...

I want to take the E-60 off the block, but Donny won't let me...he talked me into selling it..

If I get no bids...I will cancel the auction with 1 minute to go...See how many unhappy people were trying to steal it..

I will probably be throwing my PA800 on ebay soon. I have lost my inspiration since I started playing Korg.

NEEEEEEDDDDDD more ROLANDDDDDDD!lol

I spent 17 straight hours in my studio working up new material on the PA800 and it simply amazes me more every single day.............different strokes...

Be interesting to know those strokes...


I mean... what's the MUSICAL difference between someone who prefers the Korg sound, and someone who prefers Roland, Yamaha, whatever....

What's what you prefer best at, what is it worst at?

Inquiring minds want to know....

Guess we're too late for that now, aren't we?

Fran, make up your mind!

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What mind...?

(You KNOW I'm kidding? ,)

"Friends don't let friends sell keyboards they shouldn't"

I rest my case...

Fran's not happy unless he's dealing something. It's part of his charm!

The musical difference for me is:

I play arranger style only. It took me 6 months before I introduced this to my audience (I know, some go out the next day with their new toy). I am particular and specific in my songs - everything has to be perfect (I'm just that way). Every completed song on this board is different from the next. This is what I find enjoyable. I can do patriotic with marches and sort and they sound as if from a different board - fantastic. I can do country and this board sounds like the real deal. I can do big band and it is superb. (Let me say, a serenade style for Moonlight Serenade will not take a back seat vs the recent T3 demo). Use the same serenade style for Aint Misbehavin', use different variations and fills, come in with a trombone lead and it blow your mind. Worked out A-Train. Check out the aritculated vibes that work throughout the style. Worked out All Of Me - the beautiful swing organ knocks my socks off. On Night and Day, I mimicked Frank Sinatra's string version - it makes me wanna cry - talk about elegance Lay out Just The Way, Your Song and other slower work and they are equally as soft and beautiful. Next, I jump to Queen's Thing Called Love and it plain out rocks, as do other uptempo. Did I mention they all sound different? I figure that when I have a song perfected, it's always going to be top notch. I don't just throw something to the wind as good enough.

1. We've talked about drums. The drums are awesome, no doubt, but it's more than that. It's the total makeup of a style - the richness, fullness, articulated instrumentation and incredible flexibility withing variations, intros and endings.

2. The harmonizer - it works like a charm and it is available with the touch at all times. Mine is programmed to stay on or off with each key stroke.

3. The sounds - subjective. Great enough.

4. Keybed - very good enough for me.

5. On board speakers - can I say more - some like, some not.

6. Pads - useable and linked in time, at all times.

I can go on and on. It's been hashed out many times before. Everyone has their own ears. I'm of a handful that plays live with the 800 and different for me has been good.

Have fun everyone with what you choose.

zuki

Zuki your excitement is all well & good, I'm happy for you, but means nothing on a forum unless you show on video or demo even a little bit of what your talking about. I dont want to sound rude but,People can say anything & claim anything they want about KB's on here, but it has to be HEARD, after all it's the MUSIC produced that is the most important thing right?
Btw how's you website coming along, online yet?

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-03-2008).]

: I was wondering how long you'd take to post this reply

Maybe one day is what I'll say. I still run my chemical business and it's difficult to get all accomplished.

I can say that I've booked many jobs to date for next year and did not need demos to do so. It's about time mgmt my friend.

I look at it this way. No player's chops will convince another to buy a keyboard. Look at the fabulous demonstrators in this world. They play their hearts out only to have constant criticism about the product - I'd get the same response, so I will remain without demos.

Zuki...
I dont claim to be the best player in the world either but I have posted some tunes in the past when needed .......but lets face it & this is not geared toward you alone Zuki, but to all here in general...
we can talk till the cows come home & if no one at least puts up the main ingredient to what they are talking about & pounding their chest about even a small smidgen worth it leaves a BIG GAP in the conversation & thought process. Not only that, it leaves the reader scratching his head saying "Crap, I dont know what to think now?" because this one says this.....that one says that....
ahhhhh whats the use?
carry on in your confusement & wonder

[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 10-03-2008).]

The E-60 is no longer available..I cancelled Ebay...I have decided to keep it....since there is nothing out there that can replace it..and do what it does...not to mention compatibility with the G70...

I now know that there is a market for the E-60..if the time comes for me to move it..with 145 hits and 6 watchers on Ebay, and numerous emails...my question was answered..the E-60 is very marketable..

BTW: Diki and Bart were the only people to remind me not to sell the E-60..

well, i didn't even bother fran because i knew you wont sell it after all!
otoh, your decission to keep it is just like you would purchase the E60 the third time, isn't it?

i say you did good not selling it!

I forgot to mention..a few days ago I played the new Roland Juno Stage (76 keys)..

The stage has all the goodies from the Juno G, and many goodies of it's own...

First off..the key feel is much better than the Juno G (I hated playing my Juno G)..Roland added metal weights under the keys..reminds me of the older workstations..D-70, JV1000, and XP80...I may as well add the Fantom X....since I owned all of them...

The compact size and 76 keys are a plus..at 21 pounds..

The display is nicer than the Juno G..

The added goodies are the mic with phantom power...MP3/wav/midi player...999 songs, I believe...It did not read my thumb drive folders..only the non folder tunes..unlike the Roland RD700gx..that unit read every folder and sub folder..same with the 300gx..

The Stage makes a decent controller for the studio too..it has a single button push to make it a USB controller...

It is a shame that Roland did not include a USB Audio interface to go with the USB MIDI interface...as the Sonic Cell has...

When I put my E-60 on Ebay ..I was considering the Juno Stage and GW8...after playing the Stage and reading the manuals including the GW...I am thoroughly convinced the E-60 to be superior over both...save the MP3/Wave player..the E-60 is better in every other feature...

Of course the E-60 lacks the mic input too..

key feel and playability is slightly better on the E compared to the Stage..

The E-60 is 7 pounds more with a touch screen and speakers..

The lyric read and make up tools..makes the E-60 much..much more desirable..

And the one feature that I keep going back to the E-60..the drum kits are simply the best...

After I played the Stage...it made me more reluctant to sell the E-60..

Thanks Diki, and Bart..for the reminder..

Adi, you are right...I looked for months to find another E-60..new or like new..after I sold my first one....I lucked out finding another 3 month old unit...

If the E-60 was the only keyboard I owned..I would not even have entertained the idea of selling it....Keep in mind I do compare the E-60 side by side to my G70..Often,,with the exception of a couple drum kits on the E-60....it can not run with the G70......As a stand by and a second board..it is a win/win for me..

But compare it to all the other arrangers I recently owned and played...The E-60 reigns over them..easily...

You are welcome, Fran!

Fran congrats on your latest E60 "SAVE"...........& btw, can't wait for your WERSI review this week on your trip to the Wersi Showroom.......Whoops

Fran said... The E-60 is 7 pounds more with a touch screen and speakers..

The lyric read and make up tools..makes the E-60 much..much more desirable..

And the one feature that I keep going back to the E-60..the drum kits are simply the best...

After I played the Stage...it made me more reluctant to sell the E-60..

Fran, I'm happy you didn't sell. The e60 is, as you know, a very under-rated arranger.
I was happy to read you quick review of the Juno Stage 76, as I haven't had the opportunity to see or play one. It looks like an interesting machine, but you and I need to compare it to the e60. There aren't too many others out there that have that problem, so maybe the Stage 76 would be a good board for them.

Back and breathing
Cass

Maybe THEY need to compare it to the E60 before they make a purchase, too...

A 76 arranger at little above the weight of an S900, and a lot of the G70's strengths, to boot. If my back ever goes out on me, you can bet that's what I'm getting while I convalesce

Understood, Diki but where are you going to find one? It's not as if Roland is selling them on every (or any) street corner.

Craving a little attention, Fran? Else, what the h-ll was the purpose of this post? Another 'bridge to nowhere'.

Your buddy,

chas

cassp,
good to see you back!

I accidentally sent this post twice and it's hard enough to read it once.
Sorry, it's my first misteak ever.
DonM

[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 10-06-2008).]

Yeah Cassp, I'm glad you are feeling well enough to jump in here again. BTW I'm still trying to get "The Weight" worked out. It's one of those songs I always liked and should have worked out years ago. Your version INSPIRED me my friend.
Fran, I like the drums on my E50 too. Not quite as good as Ketron, but very good. DNJ tells me they sound like someone banging on cans in the garage but I think he's just jealous or has better ears than I do.
DonM

Must be time to go to sleep now because I keep pushing the wrong buttons.


[This message has been edited by DonM (edited 10-06-2008).]

Not only did I buy a Roland E-50 this week....I just purchased a new Roland Stage 76....A pair of 20 pound keyboards that may work well together as well as individually..

I have to stay off the net a while before I can't afford to feed my family...

As always..you are welcome to make an offer on any of my toys..