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#244467 - 10/09/08 12:31 PM Re: T3 Second Impressions?
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
PEBCAK...

I still stand by the monitors comment, though

There's a REASON a $4000 arranger sounds better than a $400 one... same reason a $1500 monitor system sounds better than a $300 one!

One thing that worries me is the inclusion of these tremendously powerful EQ and compression tools that are included in modern arrangers, completely at the control of people that usually have next to no skill whatsoever at using them! Obviously, we can see here how capable they are of taking a perfectly good sound, and screwing it up into something almost unlistenable

This didn't used to be the case... manufacturers, once upon a time, sent out the arranger from the factory already adjusted to the best it could possibly be, with no controls at all, and if it sounded like poo, you knew for certain that it WAS your sound system screwing things up, and as soon as you got that right, the job was done!

So much for 'home keyboard' users! 'Home' stereos don't come with a multi-band compressor built in... You can ruin a perfectly good sound in a heartbeat by using one of those incorrectly... Those are high end studio toys, and even there can quickly make a good sound go south...

I would favor a return to the factory adjusting arrangers to their best, and not letting all these amateur sound technicians screw them up afterwards... Just buy a sound system that is balanced enough you don't NEED to adjust them any, and we wouldn't be having this problem!
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#244468 - 10/09/08 12:37 PM Re: T3 Second Impressions?
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
And leeboy... props for the HR824's (I got the Mk1's)

Smooth, listenable for hours, louder than you can stand and no real need for a sub (flat down to 40Hz or so, not too much roll-off below that, either!).

Just like on a CD, they reveal detail and depth in your arranger's sound that lesser speakers hide and muddy. Not much point in a $4k arranger if you only get to hear $400 worth of the sound, IMO
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#244469 - 10/09/08 02:09 PM Re: T3 Second Impressions?
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Registered: 01/14/02
Posts: 1497
Loc: Buffalo, NY
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Originally posted by Scottyee:
Just talked to Pose. He just talked to Steve Deming at Yamaha USA, and apparently simply forgot to include ticking all the boxs when performing a keyboard reset. He says his Tyros3 sounds great now. - Scott


Thanks for the update.
We don't need any mis-information adding fuel to the "Yamaha bashing" fire.

Jerry

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#244470 - 10/09/08 02:38 PM Re: T3 Second Impressions?
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
Seems that the T3 owners don't need any help fueling the fire...

Quite capable of it all by themselves...

Mind you, stuff like this isn't going to be fixed by a reset... "A bit dissapointed with some the preset styles just a few country and almost all the OTS not even country. When I say dissapointed I mean Yamaha did not do the work for me, still have to change to suit."

Country styles are pretty darn useful over here in the States, at least...
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