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#245507 - 10/21/08 07:48 AM Re: Roland arrangers
Stephenm52 Offline
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Registered: 04/13/05
Posts: 5126
Loc: USA
I owned a G70 for about 5 months, I liked it as I did the Psr3000, Tyros2, Korg Pa800 and Korg Pa2xPro. imho, they are all terrific. I like them and hate 'em all at the same time. If my money tree in the backyard hadn't died I would have kept all but the PSR3000.

A couple of things I enjoyed most about the G70, the latin style and the best keybed in the arranger world. I recorded an MP3 of the "Shadow of Your Smile" on the G70, I've yet to own arranger that has the wonderful piano and sax that G70 produced. Nothing has come close, but I haven't demoed the Tyros3 yet, so maybe that could change?? For me buying and selling arrangers is half the fun. At this point I don't have any real allegiance to any brand.

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#245508 - 10/21/08 07:57 AM Re: Roland arrangers
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Steve, with all these units so close in technology now the Gap is closing on the mine is better then yours routine.........I think its time people put More effort into improving their chops & letting each player make their Unit sound great because they made it sound that way through their playing ability & knowledge & NOT by the keyboard itself as is perceive day after day when you read these posts. The keyboard means squat if YOU the player doesn't have the talent to do so.

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#245509 - 10/21/08 08:02 AM Re: Roland arrangers
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Stephenm52:
I recorded an MP3 of the "Shadow of Your Smile" on the G70, I've yet to own arranger that has the wonderful piano and sax that G70 produced. Nothing has come close, but I haven't demoed the Tyros3 yet, so maybe that could change??


Hi Steve,

You will love the T3's SA2 Saxes, the Breathy Sax and Jazz Sax are incredible.

The "Shadow of Your Smile" would also sound really cool with the new SA2 Clarinets.


Ian
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#245510 - 10/21/08 08:03 AM Re: Roland arrangers
Dnj Offline
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Ian one sound does not make an arranger

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#245511 - 10/21/08 08:14 AM Re: Roland arrangers
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
Tried the G-70 for about an hour, it sounded OK (not incredible or fantastic), some of the styles were very good, some were not. The key feel, to my deteriorating fingers, felt stiff and spongy. (I like the lighter touch keys.) Then I picked up the keyboard a few inches from the stand and gently sat it back down, then left. It's much too heavy for this old man, even if would have been the best sounding keyboard in the world, which IMO, it was OK at best. I'm confident that seasoned users can tune the keyboard to really sound good, especially for niteclub and wedding work. For me, I'll stick with the lighter boards and lighter touch.

Gary
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#245512 - 10/21/08 08:35 AM Re: Roland arrangers
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Ian one sound does not make an arranger


Of course not Donny...that's why I named at least three.

Actually, the T3 is awesome...organs, guitars(especially the Single Coil), Saxes...you name it, it great, and in my opinion, is the new standard for arrangers.

You obviously haven't played one.

I'm glad you found your niche with the E-60...it obviously suits your needs better than a Yamaha...that's cool...I'm sure they aren't losing any sleep over it.

I liked the E-60, but the Roland sound is not a sound I would like to listen to all the time..., I'd use a module like the Sonic Cell, perhaps, but I prefer the more refined(you say compressed) Yamaha sound, although the T3 is definitely a more "live" sounding instrument than the T2 IMO.

Some people like Honda(me), more of a driver's car...some like Toyota...personal taste is always the deciding factor with cars or arrangers.

Yamaha and Roland both make excellent arrangers...it is nice to have choice between two great instrument makers, and as I always say, competition improves the breed.

Ian
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#245513 - 10/21/08 09:02 AM Re: Roland arrangers
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Ian, with all these units so close in technology now the Gap is closing on the mine is better then yours routine.........I think its time people put More effort into improving their chops & letting each player make their Unit sound great because they made it sound that way through their playing ability & knowledge & NOT by the keyboard itself as is perceive day after day when you read these posts. The keyboard means squat if YOU the player doesn't have the talent to do so.

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#245514 - 10/21/08 09:33 AM Re: Roland arrangers
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14269
Loc: NW Florida
How many of you have never even SEEN an E60?

Lots of people posting they HAVE played a G70... not quite what I asked, but whatever...

Who would like to play a Roland, and have never had the opportunity?
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#245515 - 10/21/08 09:33 AM Re: Roland arrangers
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
Posts: 16735
Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Quote:
Originally posted by Stephenm52:
I owned a G70 for about 5 months, I liked it as I did the Psr3000, Tyros2, Korg Pa800 and Korg Pa2xPro. imho, they are all terrific. I like them and hate 'em all at the same time. If my money tree in the backyard hadn't died I would have kept all but the PSR3000.

A couple of things I enjoyed most about the G70, the latin style and the best keybed in the arranger world. I recorded an MP3 of the "Shadow of Your Smile" on the G70, I've yet to own arranger that has the wonderful piano and sax that G70 produced. Nothing has come close, but I haven't demoed the Tyros3 yet, so maybe that could change?? For me buying and selling arrangers is half the fun. At this point I don't have any real allegiance to any brand.


"Big, little or short or tall; wish I coulda kept 'em all. MMMMMM I loved 'em everyone!"
One of my favorite songs.
DonM
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#245516 - 10/21/08 09:49 AM Re: Roland arrangers
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
How many of you have never even SEEN an E60?



They had one in my area....kept moving it around from store to store(it was a chain)...eventually sold it...didn't bring in anymore.

I played it quite a bit whilst it was in my neighborhood store....never could warm up to it entirely, but, I am more used to Yamaha's OS and find it more intuitive.

I did like the organs...not as good as the G but still pretty cool....rotary effect was very well done.

I also prefer the Yamaha pitch/mod wheels to the bender lever...never liked it much on my Jupiter 8 either...of course, that's a personal thing...some even like the Korg joystick...I didn't.

The pianos all suffer a bit in the mid range...Yamaha pianos may be brighter and more crisp, but they don't lack mid-range...they sit perfectly in the arranger mix, as they are designed to do.

Why don't you have an E-60,Diki? You could probably get one on the cheap considering they've been out a while.

Wouldn't that be a great addition to your kit...better than a GW8...you wouldn't lose the 76 notes that you prefer, and not much heavier...certainly way more portable than the G70?

I may investigate a Sonic Cell...are the organs as good as the E or G? Rotary effect?

Ian




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