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#247179 - 11/20/08 01:14 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
Ketron_AJ Offline
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... I just found out that this 'error' effect is not just limited to when you press the fills & break but also the Arrangements (e.g. when going from Arranger A to Arranger D, or B to A ... etc ) - same scenario ... I have also reported this to Korg.
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#247180 - 11/24/08 08:11 AM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
Ketron_AJ Offline
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The new Pa2XPro/Pa800 OS2 doesn't seem to address this issue. I guess we called it in late ... maybe OS3 will?
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#247181 - 11/24/08 08:16 AM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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What? the new OS 2 didn't fix the Fill issues? well hopefully many others good things were included in teh new OS....I'm sure we'll here what changes people are experiencing soon enough.

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#247182 - 11/24/08 12:27 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
captain Russ Offline
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Registered: 01/02/04
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Wouldn't be a big deal for me...can't count to four, anyway!


R.

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#247183 - 11/24/08 05:50 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
leeboy Offline
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Registered: 10/09/04
Posts: 2580
Loc: Ocala, FL USA
OS2 was put to bed coding wise way before we escalated the fill issue.

It does seem like the volumes of fills has been leveled out.

Fill issue should get some attention soon. We hope...it is certainly not a show stopper but needsfixed.

I didn't notice it on any of the 26 NICE NEW STYLES we got.

OS2 has some nice features and was a price performer.

Lee
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#247184 - 11/25/08 03:18 AM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14247
Loc: NW Florida
How could OS2 have fixed the fill issue?

You were all (most of you, at least, with Korg's) furiously denying the problem even existed up until last week or so... now you expect a fix THAT fast...

C'mon guys, get real!

It takes time to work out the fixes, beta test them, incorporate them into a new OS without managing to break something else in the process...

This is why you need to acknowledge and demand action as soon as possible... because even if they get on it right away, there's still a fair amount of lag time in getting it done.

Quit playing 'defender', and start playing 'improver'
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#247185 - 11/25/08 04:39 AM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
kbrkr Offline
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Registered: 11/19/02
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Loc: Tampa, FL
I don't know what all the fuss is about. I spent a good portion of last evening with OS2 on my Pa2xpro. The board feels like it's a brand new keyboard. I didn't have any fill or transition issues, all the styles seemed smooth and lively. The board actually sounds much more clear and crisp. The new styles and sounds are awesome. The DNC Crunch Guitar with Overdrive, muted strings, string-bend, etc. is awesome.

I believe the styles were reworked with new Cue settings which are now part of the OS parameters for style creation. Many styles are now using the new DNC sounds and the keyboard really sounds better. They obviously spent a good deal of time working on tweaking the EQ and remapping sounds.

I also didn't experience the issues with the multi-pads that has also been stated. What I did as an experiment was to start the multi-pad, press the style start button, and then press stop. Each time I did that the Multi-pad stopped with the style. It didn't matter when I pressed the stop whether it was mid bar, at the end, or not, it simply stopped both the style and the pad. Now I only tried this on three styles, so if it's a style issue I did not try each one.

I'm very pleased with this OS release and you have to be happy with the value proposition; this update was free! Way to go Korg!
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#247186 - 11/27/08 01:26 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
rikkisbears Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
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Loc: NSW,Australia
Hi Al,
some people don't want to bother pressing the STOP button.
I've been playing around with it also to see what the fuss was about.
I don't think it's a fault. Percussion pads play on endings, and sometimes an ending stops in the middle of a bar. The percussion pad continues till the end of it's loop , after all, a pad is only synced to, it's not part of the style. Simple solution is to press stop as you do.

Instrument pads( guitars etc) don't play on endings, they stop when an ending starts , the same as on psrs's.

As for os 2, it's absolutely brilliant for my needs.

best wishes
Rikki

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I also didn't experience the issues with the multi-pads that has also been stated. What I did as an experiment was to start the multi-pad, press the style start button, and then press stop. Each time I did that the Multi-pad stopped with the style. It didn't matter when I pressed the stop whether it was mid bar, at the end, or not, it simply stopped both the style and the pad. Now I only tried this on three styles, so if it's a style issue I did not try each one.

I'm very pleased with this OS release and you have to be happy with the value proposition; this update was free! Way to go Korg!
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#247187 - 11/27/08 01:49 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
PraiseTheLord Offline
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Registered: 08/24/04
Posts: 782
Loc: N Fort Myers, FL, USA
Actually, I occasionally like the pads continuing to play, it gives a different kind of ending. And if I do not want them to play I just press Stop. Similarly the lower voice continues to play, and again you have the option to turn Memory off and stop the sound or allow it to continue until the end of the measure.

I agree, OS 2.0 is wonderful, I am setting up my Christmas programs right now and the styles and sounds are fantastic.

Graham
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#247188 - 11/27/08 03:33 PM Re: Korg Pa series Fill in issue better explained ... with examples.
keybplayer Offline
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Registered: 10/27/03
Posts: 2417
Loc: CA
There is also the 'new' problem "after" OS 2.0 has been installed dealing with the User Drum Kits. I wonder if this would be a problem at all if the Pa2XPRO/Pa800 were purchased with OS 2.0 already installed from the factory. It seems like it is happening to those who have already created User Drum Kits on the Pa2XPRO/Pa800 and then they installed OS 2.0. If OS 2.0 were "already installed" and then a person begins creating User Drum Kits, if it would still act the same way as it does with those who upgraded to OS 2.0 and already had User Drum Kits created on the keyboard?? Inquiring minds would like to know..

Best,
Mike
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