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Hi,

now it´s going on with two new Videos from Peter Baartmans on the YouTube-Channel:

Adios Nonino http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv6qkIYqS8Y&fmt=18

and

Makin' Whoopee http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPYs7lRY4U&fmt=18


Two songs, that shows the whole spectrum and versatility from Peter and the instrument.


At this point in time i would to thank all the people who also work on this recordings and made the best possible together:

on stage:

Peter Baartmans and Joachim Wolf (the Guitar-Hero in "Music" )

behind the stage:

"Conny" Vogel, Michel Voncken, Michael Mehlich, Peter "Pedda" Schips.

...last but not least to Stefan Erdmann for the german Interview (i know, but sometime it will be a new english video)

Thanks for the great work and the trust!

to be continued ...

Thilo.

Thank you Thilo; I enjoyed both demos.

That guy just has chops!

Just to put it in perspective, going price on a CVP 307 can be somewhere between $5.5k and $6k+...

Now does anyone think that these, despite Peter's excellent musicianship, are worth $2k+ MORE than a T3?

I don't hear it, that's for sure...

Actually the CVP-409, played by Baartmans in these demos, sells for about 6000 euros here in Europe and it has the same Megavoices the Tyros 2 has... no SA2, which will presumably be introduced in the next Clavinova series, so it's true that they lag behind the Tyros of at least one generation. But of course they are made of wood, look nice in your living room, have a powerful speaker system and so on...

WOW.....CHECK THIS OUT! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjbRK6QB2Tg

I played it twice...Peter is sure a talented keyboardist!

Kind of takes your breath away...

Wish I had that kind of musical talent.

Makes me want to buy a CVP?

Lee

I purchased a CVP 307 in 2004 for $5100. I think the 307 is out of production and has been replaced by the 407. Of course when I purchased the 307 it was from a friend of mine who was the Yamaha dealer in Rhode Island at the time. As I recall, others who didn't have a friend in the business could buy it as low as $5700 if they really shopped around, otherwise $6,000 was typical. I tend to doubt I could sell my CVP 307 for $5,000, I could be wrong. I would be very happy if I could sell it for $5,000. I also had a CVP 107 which I paid $3500 for in 2001, three years later when I sold it I got $1800 cash and the buyer picked it up at my home. I took a bath on it. But had no use for it.

Yea, the T3 with it's new sound engine has some advantages over the CVP 307 as an arranger. Most of the time I play the 307 I use it strictly as a piano, in that case the 307 with its' graded hammer action has it all over the T3.




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http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=jmkH-9SN8mg&feature=related

All I can say is AWESOME!!

Finally everyone loves SMF

Yep, The T3 will eat a CVP's lunch..functinaly, but...you are buying a nice piece of furnature with 88 note full graded hammer action! And it is the piano playing publc (families a lot) that want the CVP. So they are already looking at pianos and thier price.

My dealer here sells them like chocolate cookies!

Peter, playing over a SMP that he probably created is awesome...he could do the same on a Tyros, but he would loose the 88 notes piano. And it looks like he needs them!

Ah, Ha, another light just went on...it's not only the Yamaha PRO division that does not want Tyros to have more than 61 notes..it's also the Clavinova gang!

Lee

I guess Peter would love a 76 note Tyros also so he could spread out a bit more......but his KB of choice seems to be the CVP.

CVPs are sooooo cool!

I have a CVP-409 PE on the way.

The Tyros3 sits here next to me...keys beckoning...the organ sounds are incredible.

Life is good....

Tell you one thing...

If Yamaha made a 76 T3 (and not an 88), Peter would be playing it! I don't honestly think you'll ever get HIM to say that anything more than 61 is a waste

Yamaha don't give the option.. but if they DID... you honestly think he would PREFER a 61?

I feel I'm very fortunate that an arranger with 61 keys does the job admirably for me.

It gives me more choices for an arranger, and in the case of the S900, a great bang for the buck 5 octave instrument, keeps my initial investment low, and allows me to get a new arranger every three years, thus dipping into the newer technology as it becomes available.

Luckily, there are 76 note arrangers available for the few that need/want them.

The old Roland G70/E60 and Korg's PA2XPRO come to mind, and seem to be doing an excellent job for the relative few who have them.

If that small niche is already covered, why would Yamaha have any incentive to make a 76 note arranger?

Strange, ain't it, that Technics did not make a 76 note portable arranger, yet many people get all misty eyed when they speak of their beloved KN's, and consider them some of the best arrangers ever made.

Ian

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Exactly Diki.....I wonder how many perspective tyros buyers were held off because of the non 76 version & went to the G70 or Pa2x...I would assume there are many, its just that important to many players more so then a few sa voices.

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Seems to be very few gone to the G70, if we use SZ as a guide.

The PA2XPRO seems to have fared a tad better...probably because it offers more features, and is still being supported with upgrades.

Roland sorely needs a new TOTL arranger.

Ian

Just a simple 61midikeyboard connecting at the T3 and you have keys enough.

Impuls

SZ a guide?.....Ian your misguided for sure.
There are millions of musicians around the world that dont even know sz exists.....not to mention Roland is #1 around the world.

Well, I have looked at Roland's Arranger site, and I see the same posters over and over...only a few each with G70/E80/E60.

Korg's site seems a little more populated.

I'm glad Roland is #1 in your eyes Donny...you are on a roll till the next flavor of the week/month/year comes in...then it is rinse and repeat.

In the meantime you will go out of your way to bash anything else...but, it's your way of legitimizing your present purchase.

No problem...as long as it helps you cope.

It has already been suggested to you by many of us on SZ the you should be learning how to use one arranger fully, instead of hopping around from instrument to instrument, and from brand to brand.

Of course, when one mainly uses SMF then it becomes simpler...just have to remember where the "play" button is...

Ian

BTW...SZ is better known than you think.

We've got to stop being so Anglo-centric, here, Ian. More people in Europe own Roland arrangers, and tend to post on non-English forums.

That's true, Diki...the same goes for Yamaha and Korg.

The number of users on Roland Arranger does seem rather small just the same.

Ian

One, Two, Cha, Cha, Cha

One of these days you're going to start making sense to me, Donny...but actually I do prefer the norm.

Stick with it, Sunshine...you're doing great.

Ian

The number of people in MENSA is also quite small, compared to the general populace

If numbers denoted quality, those Casio's would have a better reputation, wouldn't they..? The best car is not the one that sells the most. The best chocolate isn't the highest seller. The best woman isn't necessarily the one with the most boyfriends.

I don't give a damn about numbers. It's an arranger, not an election!

Truth is, probably the vast number of people that buy arrangers (not our membership here, but just generally) can't play very well at all... It feels GOOD to be in the minority, doesn't it, Ian?

Small groups do have their advantages, Diki, I have been on the Roland arranger site many times...I joined quite sometime ago, when it was the G-70 User Club.

It's always an education....you have a good bunch on there.

Glad to see you guys are helping Donny out...he has a Roland T-shirt, you know.

Ian

I never got one of those...

Have to play shirtless (might be why gigs are getting scarcer! )

Donny told me he sometimes plays naked...

You Roland guys are so bohemian.

And very PROUD to wear it!!

You guys are a riot!!! Ian, DNJ and Diki. Here's a post about one of the top talents Yamaha has on tour and it turns into a contest about yourselves. I guess that's what keeps me coming back those colorful personalities!! The other forums everyone's polite but also very dull!! Now I know why I see people keep coming back, myself included.

EVENTUALLY it changes...

But you can only milk a cow for so long

I was hoping more would jump on the 'no SA2 on CVP at THAT price' idea, but you can lead a horse to water...

Donny and Ian love their running battle, me I just prefer to pop up and snipe, from time to time...

The Shirtless Sniper snipes again....I had to careful with the spelling...

That tactic won the American Revolutionaries a war against us Royalists, if I remember right, Ian...

To adapt is to survive...

I don't know, Diki...I wasn't there.

Just how old are you, anyway?

The weather vane on the church spire, though made of iron, would soon be broken by the storm-wind if it did not understand the noble art of turning to every wind.~Heinrich Heine

I must say...I am impressed.