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#248029 - 11/11/08 07:34 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
rattley Offline
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Registered: 11/14/99
Posts: 839
Loc: Punta Gorda Florida USA
........"Do yourselves a favor, and just OCCASIONALLY, try playing with real people........"

I'll stick with just me and the machine! I remember playing with other musicians years ago. Besides worrying about everyone getting to the gig I won't miss my drummer with a hangover........ or my bass player's ex-girlfriend in the audience....... or my singer's case of the clap..................

No thanks.................. -charley

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#248030 - 11/11/08 07:51 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
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Originally posted by Diki:
There's going to be a bass player and drummer and guitarist all there? I hope I can make it...

Just kidding (a bit!)


I'll let Don M tell you who's gonna be there at the Jam...I think you'll be very surprised and insanely happy at the amount of talent that will be all in one room for 4 days of music & fun......common Diki you know you want to attend

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#248031 - 11/11/08 08:10 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Jerry T Offline
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Registered: 09/23/05
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Loc: Phila. 'burbs, Pa. USA
A constant chore. I try to use pretty much the same bass and drums so it sounds like the same 'band' is playing the tunes. I usually, not always, remove string sections - I think, at times it sounds a little hoaky, a single act with a full string section. I usually change the brass licks and fills to something a little softer. Everything is saved as a registration, I very rarely just pick a style and run on a gig.
Ciao,
Jerry

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#248032 - 11/11/08 08:17 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Jerry we all "MAKE IT" different....thats the beauty of using an arranger KB.
All the tools are inside, NOT using them is a sin.

Good luck to you

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#248033 - 11/11/08 08:34 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
bruno123 Offline
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Registered: 06/04/02
Posts: 4912
Loc: West Palm Beach, FL 33417
Working on my styles is very much like having a band rehearsal and working on what I want to hear. It’s rare that I find a style or OTS setting that fits my taste.

With my KN7 I never recorded a sequence without tweaking the style. I adjusted the style because it was fun and on the KN7 it was very easy.

I am now doing the same on my S900 do to a remark Gary made –“To lazy to crack the manual and improve” Something like that – But he was ever so right, so I did get off my but and I am tweaking my styles. Thanks Gary.

Why I tweak my styles -----
A style can fit one song well and sound like it needs repair on the next song.

Sometimes it is as easy as changing the drum set or bass – or deleting one or more tracks to make it fit. I do not try making a style from scratch. For me tweaking is part of being OMB.

IMHO, John C.

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#248034 - 11/12/08 12:09 AM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
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Registered: 01/28/05
Posts: 1162
Loc: Oradea, RO
Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
Jerry we all "MAKE IT" different....thats the beauty of using an arranger KB.
All the tools are inside, NOT using them is a sin.


especially since within 5 minutes you really can do change that style a lot.

i create my own styles also, but not too often, as i noticed i could tweak heavely the existing ones and i am happy with the results. sometimes it takes me 5 minutes, sometimes 30 minutes, when i create from scratch probably 1 to 1,5h.

main modifications are volumes level, pan and efx. sometimes i do revoicing and more in depth tone editing. that happenes when mostly when i import a converted style.

i realize once again that roland really makes this easy with the G and E series. it's their best ideas in a while...
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#248035 - 11/12/08 01:11 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Diki Online   content


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14294
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by adimatis:
roland really makes this easy with the G and E series. it's their best ideas in a while...


So we REALLY need to make sure that Roland don't drop it like almost every other good idea they have had!

RIP Chord Sequencer, RIP Orchestrator, RIP pads... the list goes on and on
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#248036 - 11/12/08 08:50 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Today I spent approx 12 hours today editing & tweaking my styles for the Christmas Holiday Season on my E60. The makeup tools are a Godsend for an arranger KB player.It's amazing what you can do once you really dig deep into the Roland OS.

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#248037 - 11/12/08 09:10 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14294
Loc: NW Florida
I sometimes wonder just how popular Yamaha's would be, were it not for the extensive 3rd party software that enable these machines to do much of the stuff that a Roland can do 'in the box'...

It's a darn good job that guys like J. Sørenson and others exist, and do it FOR FREE. Because that's a hell of a lack of internal editing provided by Yamaha themselves, and little in the way of essential software they have provided themselves.

You guys REALLY need to thank him, and send him a Christmas gift or two!
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#248038 - 11/12/08 09:50 PM Re: How much TIME do you spend editing styles & sounds on your arranger, or....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
"I sometimes wonder just how popular Yamaha's would be, were it not for the extensive 3rd party software that enable these machines to do much of the stuff that a Roland can do 'in the box'..."


Probably not as much Diki......after-all less is more in their eyes financially because Yamaha's intent is to make you keep BUYING KBs year after year.... But not to worry Ian will chime in soon and explain.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 11-12-2008).]

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