How compatible are 3rd party styles in this board from previous models, or other brand arrangers? Does this new model have some sort of priority that will not allow certain parameters to work (like the newer SA, etc)?

Zuki all conversions to another KB is a crap shoot.More so when midi information has to be chosen from different sound sets. If a KB doesn't have SA voices an alternative sound must be used or what I've found is that it will leave the sound slot "BLANK" to be determined by the player.

Zuki,

The Tyros3 styles will not work in other Yamaha arrangers...at least not yet.

I'm sure here are conversions being attempted, although, apparently, none have been very successful.

The Tyros3 is, however, compatible with styles from the earlier arrangers, such as the Tyros1/2 and PSR-series as well as third party styles.

I've been trying them in my T3 and they work fine.

Sometimes OTS may need to be changed.

Ian

Ian,

This was my question:

Assuming I had a T3. I deduce from your reply that all 3rd party styles from previous Yamaha boards and some other brands would be acceptable in the style area (took in account about OTS), without the need of major tweaking, including some existing specific song styles available on the PSR forum?

Yep...you deduced correctly...all the 3rd party styles I've tried so far work fine, including my own custom styles.

Still you may want to tweak a little (revoice) to take advantage of some of the new sounds.

It has been my experience that conversuons from other manufacturer's styles sometimes fare less than ideal, and may need a bit more work.

Ian

Oh No here we go again !!!

Zuki say it ain't so buddy!



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I love this place, keeps life exciting. Donny great talking to you today, thanks for your help.

I had the chance demo at length a T3 couple of weeks ago. I like!! Do I like better than the Pa2xpro, well it's close. Will I sell my Pa2xPro for the T3, you just never know? Let's see what OS2 brings to the table. I've been using Korg for the last year and for sure it's a gigging musicians dream board, I really love the navigation thru Songbook. I do miss the the amount of support for Yamaha products. If I had to make the choice today and my money tree hadn't died I'd have both, wouldn't mind the G70 either. "It's the Same Old Song" they all have their strong points and I like each of them for what they bring to the player.

BTW I recently purchased the TC-Helicon Harmony M. Whoa, great piece of equipment, been by passing the built in TC Helicon on the Korg since making the purchase.

Steve your very welcome always a pleasure to speak with you. Good luck with your TC Harmony M unit I love mine & if you decide on the T3 you'll have a quality VH & Mic processor to use..


http://www.tc-helicon.com/VoiceToneHarmonyM.asp


Ps love the new TC Hm demo here also.

Don't jump to conclusions. Would NEVER part from the 800 live - NEVER. Just might want the best of two worlds



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Jim.....never say NEVER


& what would you gain that you dont have now with KORG? & is it worth it.

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It's all about diversity my friend. I don't think I need to double up on one instrument and not explore the total musical experience.

I plan to do major recording now, with my studio setup in place. I'd love to have both boards.

To answer your question: I do love the studio quality sound of Yamaha - strings, pianos - SA, etc.

This, in no way, thwarts the beauty of Korg - to reiterate, just the best of two worlds.

Stayed tuned...........

OK Jim......this is getting exciting!! so your selling the pa2x or having all 3?

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Please tell me about how you use the TC Harmony M unit...

is it me or is the harmonizer in the Tyros not good? Is the one in the T3 any better than the T1 or T2?

Thanks

Tom

All the yamaha VH are mostly the same & sub par at best ....no where near the quality & superb Voice tracking of the
TC Harmony M....listen to the demos & watch the demo videos....& you decide.
http://www.tc-helicon.com/VoiceToneHarmonyM.asp



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If you are gigging I would stick with the Korg...as far a the TC in the Korg goes.....I think they bought the NAME. Because there is light years between the Korgs and the real deal. I asked TC about this at Summer Namm. They told me it was not even close and old technology. I thought at the time maybe they were just trying to sell me on the new stuff.........They were right I can now claim no built in harmonizer is much more than a rehearsal tool.

Get the TC Helicon M or G they are great for the money.

King frog good info Thanx

Most EVERYTHING in arrangers is 'older' technology

Possible exceptions are SA voices in T2 (SA2 in T3 comes, switches and all, from the MoXS series), but the chips that power them, a lot of the samples they contain, and the effects sections are usually scavenged from older WS technology.

Korg's are based on Tritons, to a large extent, Yamaha's on older Motif technology (with some upgrades, now), Roland's on older FantomX technology, VK tech, V-Drum tech... all basically off the rack rather than bespoke.

If you want to see where arrangers may be in four or five years, take a look at what WS's are doing NOW