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#250777 - 12/12/08 02:53 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
Donny ... all good points ... but ALL not [b]NECESSARILY so for ALL the people ALL the time ...
'"nuff said"

t. [/B]


T.

many just dont give a crap......& want everyone else to do the hard work for them & they're only concern is the almighty dollar...on top of that they are lazy and won't improve their act enough so that they will be in constant demand & would never need an agent (mostly used for small acts locally if the venue soley books thru an agent) because they think in their mind they are too good when it's the opposite.....you gotta soar above the rest & stop being like the rest.

"If you have it ....They will come"

d.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 12-12-2008).]

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#250778 - 12/12/08 03:04 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
cgiles Offline
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Loc: Roswell,GA/USA
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Originally posted by BBBB:
Doc says I could have small memory loss, dizziness,not to lift anything heavy...


Hope that's not serious and is just a temporary thing. In the meantime, might as well milk it for all it's worth. Like if you happen to forget your anniversary or your wife's birthday. Also, it could possibly do permanent damage if you continue to have to take out the garbage.....surely your wife can understand that .

Kidding, of course. Get well soon.

chas
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#250779 - 12/12/08 03:24 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
leeboy Offline
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Guys, Thanks for sharing...
Very interesting...for sure.
I'm still practicing to see if some day anyone would want to pay me to play!

I'm 60, so still have some time (good lord willing)

All the best to everyone out there.
BBBB, get well soon!

PS. Wish I had someone close here to tutor me some!!! :-)

Lee
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#250780 - 12/12/08 08:06 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
hellboy44 Offline
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Loc: Australia
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Originally posted by travlin'easy:

These things happen, and more often than not when booked through an agent. Agents, at best, are frequently a pain in the ass. And, in this part of the world they tend to collect a very high fee, often as much as 40 percent. That's one of the many reasons I no longer book through agencies.
Gary


Wow - I gotta say guys, it's VERY different here in the land of Oz. We book PRIMARILY through Agents as they often look after the bigger Clubs/Gigs/Corporates. They only take 10%-15% commish (MAYBE 20% although I personally don't know of any) and they often ensure a DECENT gig, that is, (usually), our best experiences have been Agency gigs, and the worst, Client to Artist bookings...

Don't get me wrong, we book direct as well, and we're not absolutely Pro-Agent, but we find if you just deal with a handful of trusted, honest Agents, life is gravy.
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#250781 - 12/12/08 08:13 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
zuki Offline
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Registered: 09/20/02
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Quote:
Originally posted by Dnj:
1- Book your own work

2- Let your talent be your calliing card

3- Make them "come to you" always

4- No Agents

nuff said...



You make it sound soooo easy! Don't care how terrific one is, they still have to exercise all the marketing tools to stay constantly booked, at least in this area of the country.
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#250782 - 12/12/08 08:45 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
Dnj Offline
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Zuki as in any marketing strategy 101....

Supply & demand...if they ain't demanding "YOU" SOMTHING IS WRONG with your product, it's either LESS then all the rest or SAME as the rest & that is NOT Good enough if you want to make it as a Pro Musician in this business my friend plain & simple.

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#250783 - 12/12/08 08:57 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Zuki as in any marketing strategy 101....

Supply & demand...if they ain't demanding "YOU" SOMTHING IS WRONG with your product, it's either LESS then all the rest or SAME as the rest & that is NOT Good enough if you want to make it as a Pro Musician in this business my friend plain & simple.


I have 437 jobs booked for 2009. I am in demand, but it doesn't come from sitting on my ass at home and waiting for calls - my point!
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#250784 - 12/12/08 09:07 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by zuki:
I have 437 jobs booked for 2009. I am in demand, but it doesn't come from sitting on my ass at home and waiting for calls - my point!



1- how many of these jobs are 1 hr?

2- what is the average hourly rate?

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#250785 - 12/12/08 09:18 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
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1 - 2 hour gigs.

About the same as you earn.
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#250786 - 12/12/08 09:29 PM Re: Well it's official I won't be quitting my day job for a career in music
Dnj Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by zuki:
1 - 2 hour gigs.

About the same as you earn.



OK...Good luck in 2009 Zuki

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