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#25318 - 05/20/00 04:01 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
..hello,

Now we're on it anyway... Could I ask for someone to allow a potential XV librarian to be put on my site?

it's www.5080land.com, and This board (especialy inrays info) could bring up more interesting stories for me to post there...

THanks,

CD

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#25319 - 05/21/00 04:28 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
Cosmic Dreamer and the rest folks hi...
I've tried the above link but it seems dead. If you ever need any help post us a note in this forum.
XVs (88,3080,5080) are already on stores but back ordered here in Europe. I preordered my 88 and 5080 on February and got them late April. I listened many friends of mine told me that in US are in limited quantities but i know nothing about it.
As i post earlier Roland has under developement two new SRX cards. One of them has some (not many) of the best vintage keyboard sounds of 60's and 70's. When i have more info about them i'll post you a note.

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#25320 - 05/22/00 01:27 AM Re: XV or not XV ???
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hello inray,

Well I guess the link seemed dead because I was so dumb to include a . in the adress, I guess you can't do that here,

It's or: http://www.5080land.com or www.5080land.cjb.net If these 2 are dead try www.cosmicdreamer.com/5080 ..

Anyhow, to brag on about the release dates. It's kinda curious that while you got them in april, I was in frankfurt 16th april on the musik messe and the people there told that it couild last 3 months untill the device is out, and well I found it fair because when you tried to edit things, it wouldn't work .

i wish... hehe

CD

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#25321 - 05/22/00 03:02 AM Re: XV or not XV ???
boeschm Offline
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Registered: 01/10/00
Posts: 4
Loc: Losone (Switzerland)
Quote:
Originally posted by sk880user:
This is an interesting discussion.

Hello everybody,

you should also comapre the new XV-88 with the most realistic stage piano I've ever played: GEM Pro 2, 128 polifony and unbeatable price.

Check it out: www.generalmusic.com

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#25322 - 05/22/00 04:20 AM Re: XV or not XV ???
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
Cosmic Dreamer
I didn't notice the extra fullstop in your URL but now i saw your site. Nice try to put all your info in a single place. Be prepared to make more and more .com registrations because Roland is going to introduce new gear (see above posts) on September
Do not believe what Roland distributors say to you. I made the same mistake some years ago. Roland keeps it's secrets very well. It's the only way to sell their old stuff stock.
First time i try XV was fifteen days before NAMM2000 and as you told it was just a preproduction model. After twenty days Roland took my money and preorder for me those nice boxes. When i delivered them i thought that i was the first one atleast in my country. But a customer of mine came to my studio to try his new Roland 5080 He he he...
On april SRX02 piano board was not available here (Greece) and they (Roland) told me that it was under developement yet. After some phone calls i ordered it from a Roland distributor in (!) Cyprus and he sent it to me in a week.
As you can understand Roland can deliver limited XV quantities yet and they are too good in marketing tricks
Do you know that in Japan there exist many pro studios who have XVs almost six months now ? Roland is like some software manufactures and uses the beta test method to develop their new stuff.
In general these forums here (all in synthworld) gave us more info on new gear, not only Roland's, than the manufacturers themselves. Keep your ears open and post your info in your site and here as we do.

Cheers...

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#25323 - 05/22/00 09:21 AM Re: XV or not XV ???
sk880user Offline
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Registered: 01/26/01
Posts: 1255
Loc: United States
boeschm,

When it comes to features and price, I agree with you: GEM PRO2 is unbeatable. But how about the sound quality compared to Yamaha P80?

I played PRO2 for very short time and at that time I compared it to Yamaha P200. I thought P200 sounded better than PRO2. I compared P80 with P200 and P80 was superior, lighter and cheaper.

Do not mistaken me, I love GEM products but I do not like the sounds of their pianos. We are discussing XV and if XV can give you better or comparable piano to P80, I will buy one right away. *S*

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#25324 - 05/22/00 12:31 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
Member

Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hello Inray (and others)

Well, hmm seems Roland kinda smells like sony and nintendo (they always do that kinda trick with their game consoles aswell).. I'll definitely have to update my site in that regard..

Yet I can't understand the patern.. Why do they tell me that "software is finished and will go into debugging" . They told that last week to me, and I was sooo enthousiastic that I knew it right because it comes from Roland ppl.. Although I wrote with it, that I didn't trust them 100%. Lol, I think i'll receive alot of hatemale about having a crappy info site, as release dates and megabytes of ram seem to tumble up and down.

I'd like to apologise for this kind of little things.

Does anyone know wich will be the EXACT amount of sample ram wich is on the xv5080 as a standard?

Will the SRJV80-04 vintage synth card show its 2 (JV and JD) banks on it?...

....when will the thing really be out ...

These are the questions I still like a real answer on. ..

If anyone is interested in making an XV pc librarian that he/she wants to put on my site (www.5080land.com) Please let me know..

Great regards

CD

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#25325 - 05/22/00 05:40 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
Inray Offline
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Registered: 01/23/00
Posts: 72
Loc: GREECE
Hello again...

XV5080 uses a 32 bit CPU actually addressing 1 GB or memory space. Due to hardware MMU limitation and operating system resources the real space is 512 MB shared between RAM and ROM. As you know most of that memory space is ROM-only.
64 MB for onboard samples
320 MB for SRX & SRJV samples
128 MB for SIMM addon RAM

There is some 8 MB onboard RAM that share its address with the last add on card's rom when it's inserted. Actually this space of 8 MB is useless for anything but SCSI sample read buffering. So the 128 MB simm addon memory is a must if you really want to use s700,s1000,AIFF,WAV samples.

The rest of onboard memory (mostly ROM) is used by OS and FX/DSP software algorithms.

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#25326 - 05/22/00 06:47 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
feefer Offline
Member

Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Hi all,

Excuse if this is a lame question, but I'm a non-computer guy: any idea on what it would cost to load a 5080 with simm memory? Would it have to be a Roland product, or could you get it elsewhere?

Thanks,
Christopher

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#25327 - 05/22/00 08:17 PM Re: XV or not XV ???
Nate_Straight Offline
Junior Member

Registered: 04/25/00
Posts: 20
Hey hope I can help..... it shouldn't cost that much too upgrade your memory. SIMM memory is pretty much out of date for PC's so if you can find it, it should be fairly cheap. And no, I don't think it would have to be Roland's product, unless they rigged their machine that way to get more money. Check the owner's manual.

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