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#253078 - 01/20/09 01:43 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
Ketron_AJ Offline
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Registered: 03/21/01
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... whew ... after a 2hr delay in TX (due to snow in Philly), I can safely say I'm back home now. I need to hit the sheets, but wanted to check out the forums first ... see if I had any questions.

Dikki - For the AUDIO parts/Loops (even when soloed as we did today (Monday) with the UNPLUGGED Styles to show of just how the audio ALONE sounded), ALL chord parts have been taken into consideration (hence some of the delay in the release) - meaning when you play (e.g an A chord), all extentions/variations of the A chord - (dim, 9th, Maj, Min, Min7th, AUG ... etc) are recognized by the AUDIO and MIDI parts of AUDYA. Because we streem the Audio directly from the HD, memory wasn't an issue here.

I hope this answers your question (at leat this one about chord recognition). If not, please let me know (with examples) and I will respond with "Yes/No" if a chord type you list is not currently recognized.

Thanks ... going to bed now.

AJ
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#253079 - 01/20/09 06:54 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Hee Ha baby we havin' a great time here at the Louisiana jam!! Yesterday we had a few less people due to scheduling & some had to get back to their perspective lives......after a great country breakfast we went back to the Jam room and started all over again hitting the keys & singing, trading solos etc, etc, & my buddy Hank B sang my favorite George Jones song for me "She Stopped Loving You Today"....it's amazing how so many pro musicians can come together & meld into one single sound as if we played together for a long time simply AWESOME!!
The hospitality here at the American legion hall is first class. We jammed into the late afternoon Then shot out for lunch to downtown Shreveport to a historic place call Fertitta's "Home of the Original Muffada" Italian Sandwich a real Louisiana favorite, Susan Mason joined us also..OH man are they so good! We had 3 of these giant creations. Afterwards we went back and really got serious & jammed the night away Don M, Myself, the famous Joe Lee Richards on guitar right next to me could make that Telecaster talk baby!, & Joe Ayala who blew us away with his super smooth vocals & KB playing, I love that man!!! it was a special time that I will never forget for sure...I'm telling you that we could of hit the stage somewhere & gave the audience a Show they would of been on their feet for all night long!! Killer licks, tradin' Vocals & harmonies beyond belief & everyone sat back just right in the pocket for an outstanding mix which really sounded great through the Bose PAS system.......it doesn't get no better, after the night Jam Joe went back to Baltimore sniff sniff, Joe Lee hit the Casinos......& Don M & myself hit the Shreveport Night Life... a real HOT Blues Club to see the local talent...WOW!! it was super players ripping licks & singin the blues....then we hit Binnion's "Horseshoe" Casino & caught a great Country R&B band in the CMT lounge on stage, after that at around midnight we hit the Waffle house for a great late night breakfast.....Fran would of Loved this! YUMMMYYY! .....I had so much fun, but....., it ain't over yet!! Tonight we are all going to "ERNEST's Orleans restaurant a great Famous Local Restaurant & Club where Don M will be performing
http://www.ernestsorleans.com/

.....more to come stay tuned!! Joe Lee has this all on Video also for DVD's later on when editied.



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 01-20-2009).]

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#253080 - 01/20/09 07:19 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
travlin'easy Offline
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Registered: 12/08/02
Posts: 15576
Loc: Forest Hill, MD USA
WOW! Great report Donny. Sure wish I could have been there instead of shoveling snow up here. Looks like 2010 is when I'll be heading south, either by boat, plane or car--but definitely headed south.

Enjoy the remainder of your stay,

Gary
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#253081 - 01/20/09 07:26 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
Keyman_UK Offline
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Registered: 01/31/06
Posts: 16
Loc: UK
Thanks DonM for the hard drive info.

80GB is definitely better than 40GB being reported on some European sites. The manual Ketron uploaded a few weeks back is right. Just to see if this 4GB of memory which Ketron UK mentioned to me is correct now. If it is 4GB even if it shares the memory with the internal sounds etc, it's still far more than Korg and Yamaha offer with their arrangers, so roll on Audya.

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#253082 - 01/20/09 07:49 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
DonM Offline
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
AJ said it was 4 gig.
Ian, Donny hasn't played a midi file the whole trip. Everything from styles or full keyboard when someone else is playing. He can really play!
DonM
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#253083 - 01/20/09 07:50 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
hammer Offline
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Registered: 01/27/08
Posts: 2403
Loc: Texas
This was posted on another forum by someone at the Jam, thought it would be of interest here too.

"I was at the jam on Sunday. Unfortunately my wife was feeling unwell all day, and she kept a brave face for as long as she could but eventually we had to leave earlier than planned. Hammers T3 sounded great, I thought much better than the other 'normal' keyboards.
But what about the Audya. I suppose everyone will have their own opinion. This is a Yamaha owners forum, and I am sensitive to that, but for me this instrument was in a different league to any other arranger I have seen, and raises the bar significantly for arrangers. The important sounds are amazingly authentic. Ketron has always been known for this, but there are some improvements - for example the accoustic piano sample is practically perfection, and the human chorus voices so real my wife was convinced it was the vocal harmonizer and AJ was singing. But the two real differentiators are : the use of audio loops rather than midi loops in the styles : and the way a player can control the arranger during performance.
For example you can trigger a break or fill just by pressing the LH chord a bit harder. The keyboard can be split at multiple places and given different voices and all pitched if you want as if they are in the middle of the keyboard. The layering is more innovative than I have seen before because you can make the voice layers respond to the velocity- eg you can have a sax layered with a brass section, and set it so only the sax sounds till you hit it a bit harder and have the brass sound by itself and the sax disappear. Or you can have them layered conventionally, or whatever you want. You can smoothly overlap voice changes by holding a note so the new voice appears over the top of the old. You can float parts in and out of the style on the fly. These are just a few examples of the bewildering range of possibilities.
Audio loops in the styles must be the way of the future. Much less mechanical and the bass and drums will even change their riffs during a style variation depending on how you play - just like real players.
It has 76 semi weighted keys. seems built like a tank and has performance features I never even dreamed of, way too many to describe here. Nothing about the cost yet, but if it was thousands more than the T3 it would seem about right, however, surprisingly the rumor is it may be a similar price.
I was quite skeptical about the way that they announced the Audya two years ago then failed to produce it, and I am sure its still something of a work in progress, eg only a proportion of the styles use audio loops. There may be some layout things that can be improved, and all this functionality probably means a significant time investment to become expert, but nonetheless, this seems genuine step change. If the designers at Yamaha, Korg and Roland are not huddled up trying to figure out how they can respond, they certainly should be.
Mike"

Hammer

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#253084 - 01/20/09 08:13 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
[QUOTE]Originally posted by DonM:

Ian, Donny hasn't played a midi file the whole trip. Everything from styles or full keyboard when someone else is playing. He can really play!
DonM
[/QUOTE

Shhhhhhhhhh

Let's Jam baby!

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#253085 - 01/20/09 08:31 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
AJ said it was 4 gig.
Ian, Donny hasn't played a midi file the whole trip. Everything from styles or full keyboard when someone else is playing. He can really play!
DonM



I'm relieved to hear that, Don ...and I'm glad you guys are having a great time...wish I could have been there.

Ian
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#253086 - 01/20/09 10:19 AM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
tony mads usa Offline
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Registered: 01/16/02
Posts: 14376
Loc: East Greenwich RI USA
Quote:
Originally posted by DonM:
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Ian, Donny hasn't played a midi file the whole trip. Everything from styles or full keyboard when someone else is playing. He can really play!
DonM


I am glad that has finally been put to rest !!!
To quote Dire Straits:
"He got the action, he got the motion
Yeah, the boy can play
Dedication, devotion,
Turning all the night time into the day"

Way to go, Donny ...

t.

PS DAMN I wish I could have been there ...
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#253087 - 01/20/09 02:30 PM Re: 09 Shreveport Arranger Jam!
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Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14267
Loc: NW Florida
Sorry, AJ, I am still not sure I am on the same page as you... (must be my thick head )

It's not what chords the Audya RECOGNIZES (that's a function of it's chord recognition algorithm, and I would expect that it recognizes what you play as well as any other arranger)... it's how many chord types dopes it PLAY.

In other words, on the audio track, if I play a C6,9 does the audio track play a C6,9 or does it just play a C? If I play a Cmin(maj7), does the audio track play a Cmin(maj7), or does it just play a Cmin?

I'm sorry, but I get the impression you are dancing around this issue... I can't see how I could have asked the question any clearer in the past or now... But I have a feeling that you could EASILY be clearer in your answer.

Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
How many chord types have been recorded? It's a simple question...


The question WAS asked. Could I PLEASE have an answer...?

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 01-20-2009).]
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