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#254252 - 01/25/09 01:43 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by Diki:
Are the style guitars more important than the drums and bass?


Actually, I found Yamaha's mega basses much more punchy and warm than the basses in the GW-8...and this is through the same speaker system...KRK powered monitors.

The drums are more "live" in the GW-8(and hence, the Prelude) but the lack of style part EQ provides much less flexibility than the S700, and the former's pianos still suffer from unevenness in the middle octave, although that may not bother some.

It is surprising that one has to go all the way to Roland's TOTL arrangers for style/part EQ.

Ian
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#254253 - 01/25/09 02:14 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
Dnj Offline
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At this rate the G70 could be the "LAST" TOTL arranger KB Roland ever makes.
I wouldnt be surprised at all. As is the Audya also. I feel Yamaha will be the
"Last Man Standing" in the arranger world downward spiral although I hope I'm wrong..........



[This message has been edited by Dnj (edited 01-25-2009).]

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#254254 - 01/25/09 02:56 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
ianmcnll Offline
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The G70 is still listed in Roland US lineup, although they only mention OS Ver.2 upgrade and nothing about OS3.01.

It must be current because the Prelude is there.

Lots of layoffs at Roland in Italy, where I believe the arrangers are made, so maybe they will try and compete in the lower priced home arranger market (the Prelude and GW-8 being the first attempt)..let the high end model's features trickle down like Yamaha does...certainly more profit in the long run...only thing is, they are a little late getting there, as it is pretty well dominated by Casio and Yamaha at present.

I would love to see another G-series, as competition always improves the breed...only time will tell if Roland feels it is a feasible venture.

Ian
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#254255 - 01/26/09 03:42 AM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
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If you re looking for timely information about Roland arrangers, you might as well give up on RolandUS's site. They are so far behind what is current it is embarrassing. Version 3 for the G70 has been out since Oct 2006. Well over TWO FRIGGIN' YEARS...

And not word one about it on the US Roland site.

I just hope when I stroke out and start drooling, I too can get a job promoting Roland arrangers in the USA
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#254256 - 01/26/09 10:34 AM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
adimatis Offline
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how long has passed after G1000 release to have G70 show up? does anyone remember?
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#254257 - 01/26/09 11:04 AM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
ianmcnll Offline
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G-1000 came out in 1998 or so.

I believe the G70 was out in 2005.

7 years in the difference.

So next G will be 2012?
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#254258 - 01/26/09 11:15 AM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
Dnj Offline
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
G-1000 came out in 1998 or so.

I believe the G70 was out in 2005.

7 years in the difference.

So next G will be 2012?


Don't hold your breath....times are very bad.

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#254259 - 01/26/09 02:56 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
Diki Offline


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Actually, Roland came out with the V/VA series in the interim between the G1000 and G70. Including the VA76, which was, at the time, basically Roland's replacement for the G1000. The fact that it didn't catch on didn't stop it from being Roland's direct replacement.

But, of course, Donny and Ian knew THAT!

Personally, I hope Roland DON'T come out with a G70 replacement any time soon. This, at least to me, seems a terrible time to introduce a very expensive keyboard, especially one without an innovative approach to what is turning out to be a changing market. Let their 'competition' go broke trying to cater to a dwindling customer base, with dwindling resources (wait six months before you argue this point!) with unproven 'cutting edge' products at inflated, pre-recession prices.

In the meantime, as I keep saying, my G70 continues to wow others in the studio and live bands, AND as a solo/duo accompaniment device. And, I'm sorry, but so far, no-one else has yet managed to come out with anything I have to say 'I GOTS to have one of those!'...

Only a gearhead changes for no good reason. Me, I've got to find something truly BETTER before I'll even consider it.
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#254260 - 01/26/09 02:59 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
ianmcnll Offline
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The question was..."how long has passed after G1000 release to have G70 show up? does anyone remember?"

No one mentioned anything about VA.
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#254261 - 01/26/09 11:42 PM Re: Roland Prelude VIDEO now up!
adimatis Offline
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yes, my bad, i all forgot about VA series.

i still believe the "prelude" is a prelude to the new top arranger from roland. now, it might come in later than they wanted, due to the bad economy, but later this year or next year they will do it.

and i believe, and hope for, that next roland TOTL, just as prelude, will introduce some (more) serious synth features, like arpeggios, real-time sound modify, in-depth sound editing, etc. and since prelude is another form of the GW-8 synth, why not hope for a fantom-G arranger?


why wasn't VA so succesfull btw? or was it?
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