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#254592 - 01/26/09 05:13 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by tony mads usa:
Maybe they felt that people spending the extra $$$ might be more 'particular'
t.


No doubt, but it is strange not to have it on an arranger at that price point...gee, even the E-60 doesn't have it.

I remember Donny complaining about it, and how frustrating it was to him not being able to tweak the EQ like he could on the Yamaha.

One of Roland's oversights, I imagine.

Ian
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#254594 - 01/26/09 05:27 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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nice. Yep its the player not the board.

Got a question Don. I was contracted in that "Superstars Live" show at the Hollywood Casino down there about 8 years or so ago for a few months. I saw the Logo on one of your back drops we used in the show. Are they still there? I thought when the producer Bob Curtiss passed away they stopped that show. Then there was a change in Casino management.

We had a great time doing that Casino and they treated us like gold. Good Times.
I remember Bob seeing the Legends Show in Ac and asking when I was finished and i flew back to vegas at 11 Am and to shreveport at 11PM that night to opne the the next day, Had my car shipped out a few days later and after three months in Shreveport drove to branson for another 3 months.....Hectic. But I had only been to Shreveport once and I remember we went to James Burtons place on the lake out there.
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#254595 - 01/26/09 06:13 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
I remember Donny complaining about it, and how frustrating it was to him not being able to tweak the EQ like he could on the Yamaha.

One of Roland's oversights, I imagine.

Ian


It was frustrating with no part EQ.....& in the end something I couldn't live with happily...the other thing was no Mic Processor. But now I'm very happy now with the S900...I think I showed off the S900 enough at the Jam using just Styles & Vocals alone

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#254596 - 01/26/09 06:54 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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Registered: 06/25/99
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
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Originally posted by Kingfrog:
nice. Yep its the player not the board.

Got a question Don. I was contracted in that "Superstars Live" show at the Hollywood Casino down there about 8 years or so ago for a few months. I saw the Logo on one of your back drops we used in the show. Are they still there? I thought when the producer Bob Curtiss passed away they stopped that show. Then there was a change in Casino management.

We had a great time doing that Casino and they treated us like gold. Good Times.
I remember Bob seeing the Legends Show in Ac and asking when I was finished and i flew back to vegas at 11 Am and to shreveport at 11PM that night to opne the the next day, Had my car shipped out a few days later and after three months in Shreveport drove to branson for another 3 months.....Hectic. But I had only been to Shreveport once and I remember we went to James Burtons place on the lake out there.
1 Forget the name but it was nice....

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No they don't have it anymore. In fact it's not the Hollywood Casino anymore either, it's El Dorado now.
Actually, I used to work on the nights that the Superstars weren't there, like Monday.
It was a good "photo op" because I set up in front of the sign.
They had some great shows, and I got to know some of the guys who performed, one in particular who did Waylon Jennings.
James had a club on the Riverfront. He lives out on the lake. Maybe you went to his home? The club is still there but not open regularly anymore.
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#254597 - 01/26/09 09:55 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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Originally posted by DonM:
No they don't have it anymore. In fact it's not the Hollywood Casino anymore either, it's El Dorado now.
Actually, I used to work on the nights that the Superstars weren't there, like Monday.
It was a good "photo op" because I set up in front of the sign.
They had some great shows, and I got to know some of the guys who performed, one in particular who did Waylon Jennings.
James had a club on the Riverfront. He lives out on the lake. Maybe you went to his home? The club is still there but not open regularly anymore.
DonM


I was in the second cast. After Bob died another guy took it over and a lot of acts were doing doubles. I was in the show with Charlie Daniels character. The first year they were there. Yeah we went out on the lake to Burtons on someones boat. David Allen Coe hung out at the Hollywood Casio as well. I never went back since they changed producers and the new producer reduced the contracts a lot.
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#254598 - 01/27/09 01:18 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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Hi Don

Great performance.
Your guitar sounds live,live.

Regards from Brazil,Chico

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#254599 - 01/27/09 01:53 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
Fran Carango Offline
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Registered: 05/26/99
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Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by DonM:
I guess, but I've never found that the style parts NEED e.q.
The experts at Roland did a pretty good job.
DonM


Don , I totally agree with you...

I never found the need to eq any style parts on my E-60...in fact I never eq style parts on my G70..even though it is capable..

I can see maybe the Eq being handy with some conversions from those other keyboards.. , but I also think Roland does the styles right..

I also think you folks that monkey around with the style eq's..open up a can of worms...causing inconsistent levels from one style to another....than blame the instrument for your own failures...like wearing your shorts backwards..

Maybe you should look at the way your sound system is eq'd.....and leave the keyboard alone!!!!


Thankfully , my G70 has all the tools...when and if I need them..

I also think the E series at $1,000 -$1200 price tag, doesn't need the mic input to compete with the competition...The drums and make up tools already has the E in front.. ..And I am serious!!!
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#254600 - 01/27/09 02:10 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
I never found the need to eq any style parts on my E-60...in fact I never eq style parts on my G70..even though it is capable..



I've heard your G70...start working on the EQ...Diki can show you how...he's a kind and generous man with...er...standards.

There is NO EXCUSE for a mid-range arranger like the E60 to be without style part EQ...unless you want to provide one for them.

Donny and a few others were very disappointed with the E-60's lack of part EQ...and Roland provided no upgrade like they did for the G70, which by the way, came without it originally.

Why did they add it to the G70?

Because it was needed, why else?

Seriously(now that we're being serious) they should have done so for the E-60/50 as well...but there was probably no way it could be done easily.

All the more reason it should have been implemented initially.

I'm serious.
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#254601 - 01/27/09 02:52 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
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I've been sitting here playing with HankB's S900. Only thing it needs is better drums, particularly the rim shot. The rim shot on Ketron and Roland sound real. Those on Yamaha sound like someone hitting a desk top with a ballpoint pen.
As long as they put a vocal harmonizer in it, they should have put a good one. This one is usable, but barely so. There is a glitch every time you engage or disengage it, so you MUST never hit the switch while singing a note. Other than that, it can be tuned to sound "o.k.", if you are meticulous when setting levels and e.q. and where you position the mic in relation to the speakers.
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#254602 - 01/27/09 03:01 PM Re: S900 man those drums sound live....
ianmcnll Offline
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Don,

Dan Rymut did a great tutorial on using the S900/PSR-3000/Tyros vocal harmonizer and posted some terrific examples that show it in a much better light.

Yes Don...the speaker placement in relation to the microphone is critical, as it does have a tendency to cause false triggering..."warbling" results from it and it is not pretty.

Check out Dan's tutorial on YPKO...it may be on PSR Tutorial as well...definitely worth a look.

Here's the link. http://psrtutorial.com/Resources/Articles/VHPrimer/VHPrimer.html

Ian


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