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#254910 - 01/31/09 08:48 AM Re: I know why we don't have more arrangers in the US!
Kingfrog Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
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Loc: Myrtle beach SC
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Originally posted by Diki:
Don't know if you heard this yet, Kingfrog, but this is me improvising in Pianostyle Mode on the G70...
. http://www.roland-arranger.com/smf/index.php?topic=444.0

Seems to track me fairly decently. I know I can't play COMPLETELY pianistically on an arranger, because with a piano, so much is implied rather than played, but I find I don't have to adjust my playing THAT much...

And then just adjusting to that 'don't play more than two notes at a time and the chord won't change' mode. You'd be amazed at how much you can play with just two notes, if your fingering is clean...

Pianostyle Mode with the OnBass (bass inversion) ON on a Roland is VERY pleasant for a pianist to adjust to, IMO...


Very Nice...and it tracked very well. The string line sounded overdubbed rather then implied. I'm liking the G70. If I could find one cheap I might add it to the arsenal.

The problem as I see it on the Yamaha appears more with up tempo music with quick chord changes. For a walk up player set on full keyboard on the Tyros or S900 I have observed it's a mess in action. Perhaps the G70 has much better AI?

I don't think the Yamaha gives one BOTH on Bass AND full keyboard AI. I still have a lot to learn about these things.

A nice smoky track you laid there.
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#254911 - 01/31/09 08:57 AM Re: I know why we don't have more arrangers in the US!
Kingfrog Offline
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Registered: 03/24/08
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Loc: Myrtle beach SC
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Originally posted by leeboy:
Kingfrog,
Are you sure the Korg PA800/PA2XPRO was setup for EXPERT chord recognition, Chord scanning both upper and lower? And base inversion ON.


Works beautifully here.

Lee


I sold the Korg and bought the Tyros. I have set the keyboard to full mode for walk ups who play songs from their repertoire and I am not impressed (nor they) with the results.There is a technique involved even using full keyboard mode. two note vs three note etc.

For me it's great as I can play using chords. For a "pianist" the Tyros is not a good choice. But i have always claimed and still believe the Korg is the better live keyboard then the Yamahas for far more reasons than "Expert" chord mode.

Actually my wife "the real pianist in the family" misses the Korg PA2x. We may have to dig another one up........somewhere. I sold the Fender VG and am halfway there..LOL.

[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 01-31-2009).]
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#254912 - 01/31/09 02:14 PM Re: I know why we don't have more arrangers in the US!
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
Maybe you should start saving for that Roland V-Piano

I have to admit, that one floated my boat in a BIG way. Just the inter-string tuning was enough to make me sit up and go 'Bloody hell!'
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#254913 - 01/31/09 02:49 PM Re: I know why we don't have more arrangers in the US!
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Maybe you should start saving for that Roland V-Piano

I have to admit, that one floated my boat in a BIG way. Just the inter-string tuning was enough to make me sit up and go 'Bloody hell!'



I liked it too...no unevenness on this one unless you deliberately make it that way.

Seriously, it almost seems like they took their Structured Adaptive Synthesis to the next level.

I really liked SAS Pianos, especially the later models...I also thought the old rotary oil damped weighted action had a great feel...reminded me of my old KX88 which I still think had the best action of any piano/controller.

Highly likely the V-Piano technology will drift down to arrangers eventually, perhaps to arrive on the next G if there is one, but most certainly on the next generation of RDs.

That would be cool.

Ian
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