Well, I just figured out the reason the US, unlike Europe, Asia and the Mid-East is not the leader in arrangers sales. :-)

WE don't have enough corner PUBS! :-)

So, I think the answer is for Korg, Yamaha, Roland, Ketron and Wersi to provide a STIMULUS (may as well join the group)package to the US to encourage the opening of lots of pubs! :-)

I personally will open one if provided with a Stimulus packge pay off! And I will by an arranger (maybe 2)to have on site for all the performers to come and play every night of the week. :-)

So, let's go gang...lets's open lots of pubs' party more, work less (like the rest of the world) and increase arranger sales..... :-)

I'll buy the first round!
I'm anxiously awaiting my stimulus payment.
Lee

I know what you mean, I'm also waiting for it so I can stimulate a new keyboard.

A good start for Roland, to hire ARRANGER players and people that KNOW arrangers, no workstations, and perhaps, post "decent" video demos and don't embarrass themselves.

Also to the rest of manufacturers, to spend a little more in promo and marketing the arrangers, perhaps, getting some of the arranger pro-players, since "we" are exposing the product constantly to captive audiences, either a "special" price or perhaps even free. (HINT)

I can say that I sold lots of T2s and Korgs PA50s, 1Xs and some 800s while I was working at the music store and also playing out in the Phoenix AZ area.


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mdorantes

Instead of wasting energy that way ....more people should go and learn how to play their instruments better .....this way they won't keep blaming the KB instead of their own chops.

Er, there aren't a great deal in the Middle East, for obvious reasons!!

Seamaster...you got to be kidding...the Mid-East is full of arrangers...Korg's largest customer base as well. Just go to Youtube and search on PA800..Tons of folks.

Lee

I believe America has long been heading towards an almost totally non-involved music scene. Add to that the almost religious fervor for the bottom line (hire the cheapest entertainment you can ), and you can see how almost ALL the general public's music making is relegated to karaoke, where even THAT is primarily ONE person singing, and everybody else just watching, or Guitar Hero and Rock Band 'air guitar' faking...

Communal singing is pretty much non-existent (at least by European standards). Listen to any soccer match... (except over here!). They never STOP singing..! Maybe it's the culture of individualism, maybe it's the cutting back of school music programs (for decades), but it IS a shame that Americans don't like a good old sing-song.

Any US musicians got an explanation for why we hate to sing (as a nation)?

Of course this is speculation on all our parts, so here's mine. I honestly believe that, aside from the people on this forum, most Americans (who even know what an arranger keyboard is) don't really regard them as legitimate instruments. I'd be willing to bet that EVERY other musical instrument, from a harmonica to a Grand piano, outsells arrangers on a one-to-one basis. At their worst, they delude lousy musicians into thinking that they sound good; at their best, they free good singers with modest (or easily learned) keyboard skills from having to pay capable musicians to back them.

Europe? The venues where arrangers are popular could probably also be covered just as easily by an accordion. JMO.

chas

Diki, so you play the Nursing Homes? I take a song sheet with me and they sing their heads off.

Graham

Sorry Lee but your thread starts with a false premise.. It may have been true once but pubs in this country are closing so fast now that as a place of employment for musicians it is becoming extinct.. Those that remain mostly feature a genre which originated in Japan called Hara-Kiri, or something like that!!

Regards,
Trevor