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#256024 - 02/09/09 06:52 PM Re: The Grammys
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Don't forget Herbie Hancock got Album of the Year last year...

It's not ALL 'business' as usual...


Big deal.....there are so many Great musicians that never get recognized because of all this grammy commercial crap ....
it's all about money period.

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#256025 - 02/09/09 06:56 PM Re: The Grammys
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14266
Loc: NW Florida
And don't let the show overshadow the actual winners. Alison Kraus and Robert Plant...? Not exactly the usual crass commercial artists that these often go to (in fact, Plant/Kraus this year, Herbie the last, this is pretty good stuff!).

I've had Raising Sand since it first hit the stores... a great album. It wasn't the #1 seller, yet it gets the prize. Are you SURE you want to classify this award as simply a nod to commercialism?

Here's the whole list... You know, there is some AWESOME music here...

Album of the Year: Raising Sand - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

Rap Album: Tha Carter III - Lil Wayne

Male Pop Vocal Performance: Say - John Mayer

Record of the Year: Please Read The Letter - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

New Artist: Adele

Rock Album: Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends - Coldplay

Pop Collaboration With Vocals: Rich Woman - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

Song of the Year: Viva La Vida - Coldplay

Country Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocals: Stay - Sugarland

R&B Album: Jennifer Hudson - Jennifer Hudson

Producer of the Year, Non-Classical: Rick Rubin

Producer of the Year, Classical: David Frost

Female Pop Vocal Performance: Chasing Pavements - Adele

Pop Vocal Album: Rockferry - Duffy

Pop Instrumental Performance: I Dreamed There Was No War - Eagles

Pop Instrumental Album: Jingle All the Way - Bela Fleck & The Flecktones

Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Viva La Vida - Coldplay

Alternative Music Album: In Rainbows - Radiohead

Solo Rock Vocal Performance: Gravity - John Mayer,

Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Sex on Fire - Kings of Leon

Hard Rock Performance: Wax Simulacra - The Mars Volta

Metal Performance: My Apocalypse - Metallica

Rock Instrumental Performance: Peaches En Regalia - Zappa Plays Zappa

Rock Song: Girls in Their Summer Clothes - Bruce Springsteen

Rap Solo Performance: A Milli - Lil Wayne

Rap Performance by a Duo or Group: Swagga Like Us - Jay-Z and T.I. featuring Kanye West and Lil Wayne

Rap/Sung Collaboration: American Boy - Estelle featuring Kanye West

Rap Song: Lollipop - Dwayne Carter, Darius Harrison, James Scheffer, Stephen Garrett and Rex Zamor,

Country Song: Stay - Sugarland

Female Country Vocal Performance: Last Name - Carrie Underwood,

Male Country Vocal Performance: Letter to Me - Brad Paisley,

Country Collaboration with Vocals: Killing the Blues - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss,

Country Instrumental Performance: Cluster Pluck - Brad Paisley, James Burton, Vince Gill, John Jorgenson, Albert Lee, Brent Mason, Redd Volkaert and Steve Wariner

R&B Song: Miss Independent - Mikkel S. Eriksen, Tor Erik Hermansen and Shaffer Smith

Contemporary R&B Album: Growing Pains - Mary J. Blige

Female R&B Vocal Solo: Superwoman - Alicia Keys

Male R&B Vocal Solo: Miss Independent - Ne-Yo

R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Stay With Me (By the Sea), Al Green featuring John Legend

Traditional R&B Vocal Performance: You've Got the Love I Need - Al Green featuring Anthony Hamilton

Urban/Alternative Performance: Be OK - Chrisette Michele featuring will.i.am

Dance Recording: Harder Better Faster Stronger - Daft Punk

Electronic Dance Album: Alive 2007 - Daft Punk

Bluegrass Album: Honoring the Fathers of Bluegrass: Tribute to 1946 and 1947 - Ricky Skaggs and Kentucky Thunder

Traditional Blues Album: One Kind Favor - B.B. King

Contemporary Blues Album: City That Care Forgot - Dr. John and The Lower 911

New Age Album: Peace Time - Jack DeJohnette

Contemporary Jazz Album: Randy in Brasil - Randy Brecker

Jazz Vocal Album: Loverly - Cassandra Wilson

Jazz Instrumental Solo: BE-BOP - Terence Blanchard,

Jazz Instrumental Album Individual or Group: The New Crystal Silence - Chick Corea and Gary Burton

Large Jazz Ensemble Album: Monday Night Live at the Village Vanguard - The Vanguard Jazz Orchestra

Latin Jazz Album: Song for Chico - Arturo O'Farrill and The Afro-Latin Jazz Orchestra

Latin Pop Album: La Vida ... Es Un Ratico - Juanes

Latin Rock or Alternative Album: 45 - Jaguares

Latin Urban Album: Los Extraterrestres - Wisin y Yandel

Tropical Latin Album: Senor Bachata - Jose Feliciano

Regional Mexican Album: Amor, Dolor y Lagrimas - Musica Ranchera

Tejano Album: Viva La Revolucion - Ruben Ramos and The Mexican Revolution

Norteno Album: Raices - Los Tigres Del Norte

Banda Album: No Es De Madera - Joan Sebastian

Traditional Folk Album: At 89 - Pete Seeger

Contemporary Folk/Americana Album: Raising Sand - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss (Rounder)

Native American Music Album: Come to Me Great Mystery: Native American Healing Songs - Various Artists)

Hawaiian Music Album: Ikena - Tia Carrere and Daniel Ho

Zydeco or Cajun Music Album - Live at the 2008 New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival - BeauSoleil and Michael Doucet

Engineering Album, Classical: Traditions and Transformations: Sounds of Silk Road Chicago - David Frost, Tom Lazarus and Christopher Willis

Reggae Album: Jah Is Real - Burning Spear

Traditional World Music Album: Ilembe: Honoring Shaka Zulu - Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Contemporary World Music Album: Global Drum Project - Mickey Hart, Zakir Hussain, Sikiru Adepoju and Giovanni Hidalgo

Compilation Soundtrack Album for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: Juno - Various Artists

Score Soundtrack Album for Motion Television or Other Visual Media: The Dark Knight

Polka Album: Let the Whole World Sing - Jimmy Sturr and His Orchestra

Gospel Performance: Get Up - Mary Mary

Gospel Song: Help Me Believe - Kirk Franklin

Rock or Rap Gospel Album: Alive and Transported - TobyMac

Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album: Thy Kingdom Come - CeCe Winans

Southern, Country, Bluegrass Gospel: Lovin' Life - Gaither Vocal Band

Traditional Gospel Album: Down in New Orleans - The Blind Boys of Alabama

Contemporary R&B Gospel Album: The Fight of My Life - Kirk Franklin

Classical Album: Weill: Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny - James Conlon, conductor

Song Written for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: Down to Earth - WALL-E - Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman, Musical Show Album: In the Heights - Kurt Deutsch, Alex Lacamoire, Andres Levin, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Joel Moss and Bill Sherman, producers; Lin-Manuel Miranda, composer/lyricist

Spoken Word Album (Includes Poetry, Audio Books & Story Telling): An Inconvenient Truth (Al Gore) - Beau Bridges, Cynthia Nixon and Blair Underwood

Musical Album for Children: Here Come the 123s - They Might Be Giants

Spoken Word Album Children: Yes to Running! Bill Harley Live - Bill Harley

Comedy Album: It's Bad for Ya - George Carlin

Instrumental Composition: The Adventures of Mutt - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - John Williams

Instrumental Arrangement: Define Dancing - WALL-E Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman

Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocalist(s): Here's That Rainy Day, Nan Schwartz

Engineered Album, Non-Classical: Consolers of the Lonely - Joe Chiccarelli, Vance Powell and Jack White III, engineers

Remixed Recording: Electric Feel (Justice Remix) - Justice

Surround Sound Album: Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition; Night on Bald Mountain; Prelude to Khovanshchina - Michael Bishop

Opera Recording: Weill: Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny - James Conlon, conductor

Orchestral Performance: Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4 - Bernard Haitink, conductor Chicago Symphony Orchestra

Instrumental Soloist(s) Performance (With Orchestra): Schoenberg/Sibelius: Violin Concertos - Esa-Pekka Salonen, conductor; Hilary Hahn

Instrumental Soloist Performance (Without Orchestra): Piano Music of Salonen, Stucky, and Lutoslawski - Gloria Cheng

Chamber Music Performance: Carter, Elliott: String Quartets Nos. 1 and 5 - Pacifica Quartet

Small Ensemble Performance: Spotless Rose: Hymns to the Virgin Mary - Charles Bruffy, conductor; Phoenix Chorale

Classical Vocal Performance: Corigliano: Mr. Tambourine Man: Seven Poems of Bob Dylan - Hila Plitmann

Classical Contemporary Composition: Mr. Tambourine Man: Seven Poems of Bob Dylan, - John Corigliano

Classical Crossover Album: Simple Gifts - The King's Singers

Short Form Music Video: Pork and Beans - Weezer, Mathew Cullen,

Long Form Music Video: Runnin' Down a Dream - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

Recording Package: Death Magnetic - Bruce Duckworth, Sarah Moffat and David Turner

Boxed or Special Limited Edition Package: "In Rainbows - Stanley Donwood, Mel Maxwell and Christiaan Munro

Album Notes: Kind of Blue: 50th Anniversary Collector's Edition - Francis Davis

Historical Album: Art of Field Recording Volume I: Fifty Years of Traditional American Music Documented by Art Rosenbaum - Steven Lance Ledbetter and Art Rosenbaum, compilation producers
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Not too shabby.

The hell with the show. THIS is what we should be listening to
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An arranger is just a tool. What matters is what you build with it..!

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#256026 - 02/09/09 07:03 PM Re: The Grammys
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
And don't let the show overshadow the actual winners. Alison Kraus and Robert Plant...? Not exactly the usual crass commercial artists that these often go to (in fact, Plant/Kraus this year, Herbie the last, this is pretty good stuff!).

I've had Raising Sand since it first hit the stores... a great album. It wasn't the #1 seller, yet it gets the prize. Are you SURE you want to classify this award as simply a nod to commercialism?

Here's the whole list... You know, there is some AWESOME music here...

Album of the Year: Raising Sand - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

Rap Album: Tha Carter III - Lil Wayne

Male Pop Vocal Performance: Say - John Mayer

Record of the Year: Please Read The Letter - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

New Artist: Adele

Rock Album: Viva La Vida Or Death And All His Friends - Coldplay

Pop Collaboration With Vocals: Rich Woman - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss

Song of the Year: Viva La Vida - Coldplay

Country Performance By A Duo Or Group With Vocals: Stay - Sugarland

R&B Album: Jennifer Hudson - Jennifer Hudson

Producer of the Year, Non-Classical: Rick Rubin

Producer of the Year, Classical: David Frost

Female Pop Vocal Performance: Chasing Pavements - Adele

Pop Vocal Album: Rockferry - Duffy

Pop Instrumental Performance: I Dreamed There Was No War - Eagles

Pop Instrumental Album: Jingle All the Way - Bela Fleck & The Flecktones

Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Viva La Vida - Coldplay

Alternative Music Album: In Rainbows - Radiohead

Solo Rock Vocal Performance: Gravity - John Mayer,

Rock Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Sex on Fire - Kings of Leon

Hard Rock Performance: Wax Simulacra - The Mars Volta

Metal Performance: My Apocalypse - Metallica

Rock Instrumental Performance: Peaches En Regalia - Zappa Plays Zappa

Rock Song: Girls in Their Summer Clothes - Bruce Springsteen

Rap Solo Performance: A Milli - Lil Wayne

Rap Performance by a Duo or Group: Swagga Like Us - Jay-Z and T.I. featuring Kanye West and Lil Wayne

Rap/Sung Collaboration: American Boy - Estelle featuring Kanye West

Rap Song: Lollipop - Dwayne Carter, Darius Harrison, James Scheffer, Stephen Garrett and Rex Zamor,

Country Song: Stay - Sugarland

Female Country Vocal Performance: Last Name - Carrie Underwood,

Male Country Vocal Performance: Letter to Me - Brad Paisley,

Country Collaboration with Vocals: Killing the Blues - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss,

Country Instrumental Performance: Cluster Pluck - Brad Paisley, James Burton, Vince Gill, John Jorgenson, Albert Lee, Brent Mason, Redd Volkaert and Steve Wariner

R&B Song: Miss Independent - Mikkel S. Eriksen, Tor Erik Hermansen and Shaffer Smith

Contemporary R&B Album: Growing Pains - Mary J. Blige

Female R&B Vocal Solo: Superwoman - Alicia Keys

Male R&B Vocal Solo: Miss Independent - Ne-Yo

R&B Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals: Stay With Me (By the Sea), Al Green featuring John Legend

Traditional R&B Vocal Performance: You've Got the Love I Need - Al Green featuring Anthony Hamilton

Urban/Alternative Performance: Be OK - Chrisette Michele featuring will.i.am

Dance Recording: Harder Better Faster Stronger - Daft Punk

Electronic Dance Album: Alive 2007 - Daft Punk

Bluegrass Album: Honoring the Fathers of Bluegrass: Tribute to 1946 and 1947 - Ricky Skaggs and Kentucky Thunder

Traditional Blues Album: One Kind Favor - B.B. King

Contemporary Blues Album: City That Care Forgot - Dr. John and The Lower 911

New Age Album: Peace Time - Jack DeJohnette

Contemporary Jazz Album: Randy in Brasil - Randy Brecker

Jazz Vocal Album: Loverly - Cassandra Wilson

Jazz Instrumental Solo: BE-BOP - Terence Blanchard,

Jazz Instrumental Album Individual or Group: The New Crystal Silence - Chick Corea and Gary Burton

Large Jazz Ensemble Album: Monday Night Live at the Village Vanguard - The Vanguard Jazz Orchestra

Latin Jazz Album: Song for Chico - Arturo O'Farrill and The Afro-Latin Jazz Orchestra

Latin Pop Album: La Vida ... Es Un Ratico - Juanes

Latin Rock or Alternative Album: 45 - Jaguares

Latin Urban Album: Los Extraterrestres - Wisin y Yandel

Tropical Latin Album: Senor Bachata - Jose Feliciano

Regional Mexican Album: Amor, Dolor y Lagrimas - Musica Ranchera

Tejano Album: Viva La Revolucion - Ruben Ramos and The Mexican Revolution

Norteno Album: Raices - Los Tigres Del Norte

Banda Album: No Es De Madera - Joan Sebastian

Traditional Folk Album: At 89 - Pete Seeger

Contemporary Folk/Americana Album: Raising Sand - Robert Plant and Alison Krauss (Rounder)

Native American Music Album: Come to Me Great Mystery: Native American Healing Songs - Various Artists)

Hawaiian Music Album: Ikena - Tia Carrere and Daniel Ho

Zydeco or Cajun Music Album - Live at the 2008 New Orleans Jazz & Heritage Festival - BeauSoleil and Michael Doucet

Engineering Album, Classical: Traditions and Transformations: Sounds of Silk Road Chicago - David Frost, Tom Lazarus and Christopher Willis

Reggae Album: Jah Is Real - Burning Spear

Traditional World Music Album: Ilembe: Honoring Shaka Zulu - Ladysmith Black Mambazo

Contemporary World Music Album: Global Drum Project - Mickey Hart, Zakir Hussain, Sikiru Adepoju and Giovanni Hidalgo

Compilation Soundtrack Album for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: Juno - Various Artists

Score Soundtrack Album for Motion Television or Other Visual Media: The Dark Knight

Polka Album: Let the Whole World Sing - Jimmy Sturr and His Orchestra

Gospel Performance: Get Up - Mary Mary

Gospel Song: Help Me Believe - Kirk Franklin

Rock or Rap Gospel Album: Alive and Transported - TobyMac

Pop/Contemporary Gospel Album: Thy Kingdom Come - CeCe Winans

Southern, Country, Bluegrass Gospel: Lovin' Life - Gaither Vocal Band

Traditional Gospel Album: Down in New Orleans - The Blind Boys of Alabama

Contemporary R&B Gospel Album: The Fight of My Life - Kirk Franklin

Classical Album: Weill: Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny - James Conlon, conductor

Song Written for Motion Picture, Television or Other Visual Media: Down to Earth - WALL-E - Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman, Musical Show Album: In the Heights - Kurt Deutsch, Alex Lacamoire, Andres Levin, Lin-Manuel Miranda, Joel Moss and Bill Sherman, producers; Lin-Manuel Miranda, composer/lyricist

Spoken Word Album (Includes Poetry, Audio Books & Story Telling): An Inconvenient Truth (Al Gore) - Beau Bridges, Cynthia Nixon and Blair Underwood

Musical Album for Children: Here Come the 123s - They Might Be Giants

Spoken Word Album Children: Yes to Running! Bill Harley Live - Bill Harley

Comedy Album: It's Bad for Ya - George Carlin

Instrumental Composition: The Adventures of Mutt - Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - John Williams

Instrumental Arrangement: Define Dancing - WALL-E Peter Gabriel and Thomas Newman

Instrumental Arrangement Accompanying Vocalist(s): Here's That Rainy Day, Nan Schwartz

Engineered Album, Non-Classical: Consolers of the Lonely - Joe Chiccarelli, Vance Powell and Jack White III, engineers

Remixed Recording: Electric Feel (Justice Remix) - Justice

Surround Sound Album: Mussorgsky: Pictures at an Exhibition; Night on Bald Mountain; Prelude to Khovanshchina - Michael Bishop

Opera Recording: Weill: Rise and Fall of the City of Mahagonny - James Conlon, conductor

Orchestral Performance: Shostakovich: Symphony No. 4 - Bernard Haitink, conductor Chicago Symphony Orchestra

Instrumental Soloist(s) Performance (With Orchestra): Schoenberg/Sibelius: Violin Concertos - Esa-Pekka Salonen, conductor; Hilary Hahn

Instrumental Soloist Performance (Without Orchestra): Piano Music of Salonen, Stucky, and Lutoslawski - Gloria Cheng

Chamber Music Performance: Carter, Elliott: String Quartets Nos. 1 and 5 - Pacifica Quartet

Small Ensemble Performance: Spotless Rose: Hymns to the Virgin Mary - Charles Bruffy, conductor; Phoenix Chorale

Classical Vocal Performance: Corigliano: Mr. Tambourine Man: Seven Poems of Bob Dylan - Hila Plitmann

Classical Contemporary Composition: Mr. Tambourine Man: Seven Poems of Bob Dylan, - John Corigliano

Classical Crossover Album: Simple Gifts - The King's Singers

Short Form Music Video: Pork and Beans - Weezer, Mathew Cullen,

Long Form Music Video: Runnin' Down a Dream - Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers

Recording Package: Death Magnetic - Bruce Duckworth, Sarah Moffat and David Turner

Boxed or Special Limited Edition Package: "In Rainbows - Stanley Donwood, Mel Maxwell and Christiaan Munro

Album Notes: Kind of Blue: 50th Anniversary Collector's Edition - Francis Davis

Historical Album: Art of Field Recording Volume I: Fifty Years of Traditional American Music Documented by Art Rosenbaum - Steven Lance Ledbetter and Art Rosenbaum, compilation producers


The more reason to not watch it at all.

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#256027 - 02/10/09 09:00 AM Re: The Grammys
captain Russ Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 01/02/04
Posts: 7305
Loc: Lexington, Ky, USA
The good news is, some really world class folks got some of the recognition they deserved. John Mayer, Allison, BB, Chick Corea, Eagles, Al Green, Bella, Steve Warner, Vince Gill, John Legend, Jennifer Huston, Urban, Alicia Keys, Dr. John, Peter Gabriel, Jose Feliciano(one of my all-time favorites),Gary Burton (another killer player-vibes), Randy Brecker, Terrance Blanchard, Jack DeJohnette and lots more.

Great talent still stands out. More beautiful music is written and performed every year.
Sometime you just have to dig a little to find it.


Russ

(And who can't really dig the name of a country winner..."cluster pluck"? Gotta love that!).


[This message has been edited by captain Russ (edited 02-10-2009).]

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#256028 - 02/10/09 09:22 AM Re: The Grammys
Dnj Offline
Senior Member

Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Whats the sense of mentioning people when the people who would appreciate it aren't even watching the show in the first place.
The Jam in Shreveport was 10x better then the Grammys
I thought I'd just mention that!!!

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