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#256574 - 02/15/09 05:26 PM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 04/25/05
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How come, if Dom knows exactly who the MS is perfect for, he hasn't managed to get him to produce a decent demo for the MS?

You would simply think he could ask the guy for some music... because, like, he's making a boatload of it, isn't he?
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#256575 - 02/15/09 06:52 PM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 259
All is possible

Diki you do not know becasue you did not try MS.


http://www.esnips.com/doc/c775b069-a794-4bc0-afa7-2e28dab983cd/Pop-1

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#256576 - 02/16/09 01:51 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 664
Loc: Italy
Ok, just made some new experiment test with the last available Live Styler:


is full nice working and also can be used with our giga soundbank GM.
in the setup is available to configure the all midi outs ports and also to integrate on same Live Styler engine the VST or SF2 soundfonts.
I will try to buy this EdgeSounds SoniqBear GM120Pro: http://www.ntonyx.com/sf.htm
for hear IF this XG banks can cover the yamaha styles sounds too.

the best way is to clone the Tyros 3 under Giga Format with the extreme sample converter, but at this moment our sound designer have cloned only the 70%, need some more time for complete it.

About MS arranger, the qranger have a own format, like a session SEQ file and is not compatile with other styles.
For loading other brand styles, we have first to use the ENC style converter and use the Export to SEQ midifile format and then import on Qranger: http://www.lionstracs.com/demo/qranger/QrangerEMCmulti.wmv
the work then is to mixing again the all volumes and setup the correct sounds IF you will not use the basic giga GM sounds.

with the Live Styler can be one interesting features, because then you can only copy the yamaha styles on the MS Hard disk and play it all direct, without any modification.

From our side, we can editing the MS arranger interface to manage the TWO arranger enines in realtime: Qranger and Live Styler.
If one style have the .QTR ( qtractor) extension, the style will be played in qranger, is the style have the .psr extension, will be played from Live Styler. http://www.lionstracs.com/demo/qranger/msqrangermain.jpg
All the OS will be trasparent and easy for the MS user.
Can be interesting for you there?

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#256577 - 02/16/09 03:59 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 1155
An arranger is a keyboard that allows the user to play chords in the left hand and get other sounds to automatically play and follow the chords (primarily drums, bass piano/guitar and so on) while at the same time allowing the user to play a melody or chord in the right hand.

That is the basic feature of an arranger, and with out that ability can not be called an arranger or said to have arranger qualities.


Now, some keyboards may have additional features like 1 2 3 or 4 variations, 1 2 3 or 4 fills intros or endings, different chord recognition tables, and most have styles coming from the factory.


There are some keyboards that are strictly arrangers and can not do any thing else like the Yamaha T3 and PSR s 900. While there are other arrangers that are both arrangers and workstations like Korg PA2x and the Gem Genesys.


Now the mediastation is taking it a step further where it is not just an arranger, it is not just a workstation, but can play and used VSTs and audio files.

In no way shape or form can the MS be classified to be just an arranger like the Yamaha PSR S900. In no way shape or form can the MS be classified to be a workstation like the Roland G nor can the MS be classified to be just a DAW, software arranger or synth, but it is a hybrid of these three different types of music making tools.


Regardless of the amount and quality of the content shipped with the product, it does not change what it is or whether it can function as an arranger, workstation or a DAW/software synth arranger.
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#256578 - 02/16/09 04:40 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 05/26/06
Posts: 259
Yes you are right.

MEDIASTATION is something new in shape of arranger. You can do with it many many things. it is only your tool for thinking of new developing of your music or production.

Software can do anything. That i want to tell you.

Here is once link of my imporvisation with style POP FUNK 1 which is ordinary style of MS:

http://plac.siol.net/index.php?m=c9ae77e8&a=dc18f91e&share=LNK445549995520cb953

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#256579 - 02/16/09 06:00 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 09/21/00
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Maybe its now tiome for a few mediastation fiesta Workshops around the USA so we can really see the MS in action?

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#256580 - 02/16/09 06:17 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 12/13/05
Posts: 664
Loc: Italy
Just made a deal with Norbert Stellberg, the developer of Live Styler.
Norbert will be release a special version interface for the MS OS and the all communication protocoll for our system.
Maybe for end this week all is integrated in our OS.
The main MS arranger interface will remain the same, when a new style with .psr extension will pressed, automatically the Live Styler wil play it.
If another style is selected, with the .qtr extension, autonatically the Qranger wil play it.
So...soon we have TWO arranger engine integrated on OS with full yamaha and Ketron styles support, I think is enough.
Enjoy what you play

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#256581 - 02/16/09 06:31 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Where can we see the MS demonstrated live in the USA? All this new technology is very interesting.
Also wan't there supposed to be a 61 key version in the works?




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#256582 - 02/16/09 07:06 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Quote:
Originally posted by LIONSTRACS:
Ok, just made some new experiment test with the last available Live Styler:

is full nice working and also can be used with our giga soundbank GM.
in the setup is available to configure the all midi outs ports and also to integrate on same Live Styler engine the VST or SF2 soundfonts.
I will try to buy this EdgeSounds SoniqBear GM120Pro: http://www.ntonyx.com/sf.htm
for hear IF this XG banks can cover the yamaha styles sounds too.

the best way is to clone the Tyros 3 under Giga Format with the extreme sample converter, but at this moment our sound designer have cloned only the 70%, need some more time for complete it.

About MS arranger, the qranger have a own format, like a session SEQ file and is not compatile with other styles.
For loading other brand styles, we have first to use the ENC style converter and use the Export to SEQ midifile format and then import on Qranger: http://www.lionstracs.com/demo/qranger/QrangerEMCmulti.wmv
the work then is to mixing again the all volumes and setup the correct sounds IF you will not use the basic giga GM sounds.

with the Live Styler can be one interesting features, because then you can only copy the yamaha styles on the MS Hard disk and play it all direct, without any modification.

From our side, we can editing the MS arranger interface to manage the TWO arranger enines in realtime: Qranger and Live Styler.
If one style have the .QTR ( qtractor) extension, the style will be played in qranger, is the style have the .psr extension, will be played from Live Styler. http://www.lionstracs.com/demo/qranger/msqrangermain.jpg
All the OS will be trasparent and easy for the MS user.
Can be interesting for you there?


I hope that things like this will be part of the community discovering the possibillities of the MS..... and then sharing thier discoveries with the rest of the community...

This would leave MS with delivering the sounds and tools, and the community with adding new options which can be sounds, styles, tools and even more....
As said before..Linux is a community thing, and so should the MS be...


Advice..... create a MS package that people can install on any PC they want (with standard specs) so they can toy around with the programs and tools and find out more about the lovely heart of the MS...
I am sure that when people get accustomed with the MS and a coupled midi keyboard, they will choose a Mediastation for on stage too.....

Share the software, its what made M$, Intel and IBM what they are now.....And people will buy the hardware....
Give the community the tools... and they will create what the MS needs.....killer styles and aplications....You just can't do it all in house ... The project is way to huge and aspiring for that.

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#256583 - 02/16/09 07:12 AM Re: Fran Congrats on your New Media Station!
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Registered: 03/02/06
Posts: 7143
Quote:
Originally posted by LIONSTRACS:
Just made a deal with Norbert Stellberg, the developer of Live Styler.
Norbert will be release a special version interface for the MS OS and the all communication protocoll for our system.
Maybe for end this week all is integrated in our OS.
The main MS arranger interface will remain the same, when a new style with .psr extension will pressed, automatically the Live Styler wil play it.
If another style is selected, with the .qtr extension, autonatically the Qranger wil play it.
So...soon we have TWO arranger engine integrated on OS with full yamaha and Ketron styles support, I think is enough.
Enjoy what you play


This all depends on how close you can come to the sound of both Yamaha and ketron instruments...It should be possible, to come very close tough with the right sound developers....
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