I would say the BOSE without the sub is incomplete and my Klipsh would sound better....LOL They are DESIGNED WITH the sub.


You are right. I am not experienced in sales and you may have operated differently but I am consistently top in sales month after month. I'm the "new" old breed LOL

I don't tell or dictate to the customer what they need. this is not brain surgury. They have EARS, the know what THEY like.Al I do demo what THEY want. Not what I think they should want. Whether a PA or keyboard. I EMPOWER the less knowledgeable to use THEIR ears, fingers, not MY opinion. My opinion means nothing when they realize they CAN hear what they want and further has little merit to pros who already know what they want. If they want to know why there are Grover tuners on a $200 guitar, I tell them. Greg Bennett always wanted Grove tuners as a kid so his design has them at every price level. Is the guitar better because it has $50 tuners? That's where THEIR opinion means more than mine. I inform, they decide. I'm not selling cars. No pressure. No targets.
I can;t argue with the owners success. a two level piano/MI store in a MALL open 12 hours a day 364 days a year with no flooring plan is not cheap. My boss knows what empowerment means. I pass it on to the customer. Too many sales people want to tell us what we need. Want us to believe they know more than we do about our needs and wants. We are all dummys to them. My customers are not dummys.I just have to convince them of that.

I sell Behringer and the Yamaha BR series. AFTER they hear them and they understand the differences between them and the better brands and models,I know when they leave they have heard as much as I can demo and made their choice. THEY MADE THEIR CHOICE...NOT MINE.

I have sent people home without a sure purchase because I felt they were "settling" rather then getting what they want.When in another month or so they could afford what they want. Especially in guitars. I learned the hard way never to settle for something IF you know at some point in the near future you can get what your really want. Believe it or not customer appreciate that and always come back. If a guy wants the 8" $400 monitors speakers but can only afford the $300 5" ers I will tell them to wait and get what they want. Most do and are grateful.

I will absolutely dismiss a product based on the acceptance of like products a particular group uses. Call it snobbery if you like. I call it judicious choice based on my experience and what the group accepts as excellent. Its all relative. We buy the best we can afford for the clients who hire us.

Although your idea is a good one, I would not order any speaker and sell it for 30% MORE than someone can get one on the net. If someone wants a cheap powered speaker we don;t carry, there are places I can send them to read about them.; This site is one of them. I have no problem with sending people to read your posts or those here and let them make their own decisions.

The store owner trusts us to decide what to carry and what not to carry. He is a piano/organ guy not so much MI. We have our specialties and he takes advantage of that. He also knows I am a straight shooter and believe in relationship MORE than a quick sale TODAY. Sometimes he wishes I would just sell, LOL..in fact A lot... but at the end of the month he sees I do exactly that, more than most, so although he shakes his head at my methodology sometimes, he cannot argue with success If he told me HOW I had to sell, I would tell him to find an 18 year old GC reject. Im out.

Call me a snob but I will not endorse anything based on hearsay by people who use computer speakers as a professional PA System. I KNOW computer speakers, I have them, I build Computers, As good as the Klipsch are I would never consider using them in anything but a classroom.

Anymore than I would recommend my Monitor One Studio monitors because I use them or Joe Meek, or Rode in a professional recording forum or to anyone just starting out, who does not have the opportunity to try them.

There are a lot of electronic components that make claims to rival the best at ridiculously low prices....few live up to those claims. Yours indeed may. But I have every reason to be suspect and since am not in the market for $200 powered PA speakers nor do I have any great influence here, there is little reason to jump on the bandwagon.Please Don't take it personally.

You have plenty of people here who respect your opinion enough to make purchasing decisions based on it.




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Well, I'm disappointed to hear back from the people in the other forum (Karaoke djs, obviously a target marget, and it is a huge forum) that OFD never did send over a pair of speakers for eval as they had told the moderator there they would. (One of their representatives was involved in the discussion there). I was really hoping for a clean sweep on the reviews

Still, I don't know the whole story there, obviously. The build quality is the thing I'm worried about, and not super sound(unless they were outright terrible), and they sound pretty solid for the money from the reviews here.

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Well??? what's the verdict on the podiums. which face does Fran get? Hero? or ??? Has anyone used them on a job yet?? Why no comments? Friday has passed. did anyone ordered the 10" ones yet, just wondering why they weigh twice as much with just a 2" larger woofer?

Mine are already in town, but UPS doesn't deliver on Saturday or Sunday, so it will be Monday.
I don't need them at all, but I do so hate to see the truck pass my house without stopping!

Many times, I drive over to HankB's house, because the truck NEVER passes him by.
The neighbors thought his wife was having an affair with the driver.
DonM

I'm sure as more arrive people will post their experiences on the Podium 802's....stay tuned.

I too should get mine next week and will immediately take them to a job.

Great Zuki we all await your experiences......I was going to take them to tonight's gig but it was cancelled due to the Snow Storm conditions here.

Mine won't get here until Wed. but I'll stretch them out 25 or 30ft in front and facing me to see if they move any air. I don't need any more nearfields. Although....sounding good at 10ft is good enough for 'in-your-face' stage monitors. We'll see.

BTW, I wish someone would get the 10" and 15" ones, especially the 15's. Just curious how they'd stand up to mid to hi quality competitors.

chas

My biggest concern is that they won't throw the high/mids far enough...bass is never a problem, but getting the high/mid sound out to a decent distance is sometimes only the property of a PA speaker.

These appear to be monitors.

It will be interesting to hear the reviews.

Ian