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#257620 - 03/12/09 02:22 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
Diki Offline


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Loc: NW Florida
I guess you just have to be realistic about what kind of SPL you realistically expect from a pair of 8" speakers...

Are there any clip lights? Can you see them from where you are playing? Have you payed special attention to the manufacturers insistence on 'line level' ONLY (whatever THAT means! ). HOW much 'line level'?

Me, I'd take a GOOD look at your mixer meters (if you use one) and make sure nothing goes above 0db. No red lights, no nothing. A lot of mixers will happily go well into the red (or at least yellow!) which is considerably above 0db. If you are then feeding that as 'line level' to the speakers, and then turning DOWN the attenuator on the input, you might try dropping your mixer levels and turning the attenuator back up on the speakers....

I just think it's crazy to do a medium full room on 8" woofers without a sub. These were initially touted as being great for stage monitoring or QUIET PA to get a balanced sound. Now you are hammering them and are surprised if they don't hold up? You can blow up ANYTHING if you push it too hard, from PAS to Vertec (or at least hit the brickwall and be unable to go louder!).

I certainly wouldn't use my Mackie 824's as a PA in a 100+ function in a medium room if I was expected to be foreground....
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#257621 - 03/12/09 07:02 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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Originally posted by Dnj:
Zuki you knew from the first day when Fran told you via email ?..............What happened to me didn't happen to Fran his work perfectly.....also only one of my speakers had this problem, I just didn't need them in the first place but tried them anyway, I'd probably still have them here if the problem didn't occur. Zuki yours & everyone else's work fine so enjoy why not them. They are a great value. people bash gear here all day long but that doesn't make it law.

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I believe Fran told me something different than what you explained, but it doesn't matter. I love them and it might have been my imagination. However, I'm glad I got the 10s coming for live use. I know those will be more than enough. The 8s in my studio will be golden
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#257622 - 03/12/09 07:04 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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...and I sold my Mackies to someone in town. No turning back
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#257623 - 03/12/09 09:34 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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"Line level" means don't plug an amplified signal into them.
Powered mixers=no-no.
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#257624 - 03/12/09 11:52 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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So when they say 'line level', they mean 'mic level' as well, just no power amp ins?

There's got to be a better way of saying that...

BTW, can anyone confirm whether there is a clipping indicator or not? The smaller the gear, to be honest, the MORE need there is for these... It's unlikely any of us need to get so loud we could clip an SRM450v2, but an 8" powered speaker?

That needs it more than the Mackie...
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#257625 - 03/13/09 12:01 AM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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BTW, every now and again I have to plug my powered mixer into some powered speakers. I take the line outs of the mixer, no problem, but of course, you have the power amps in the mixer STILL working away, into no load at all... Few powered mixers allow you to turn down the powered amps without turning down the main line outs, too, and most RCA outs are pre-fader.

So I always carry two dummy plugs to plug into the powered mixer's 'amp in' jacks, which effectively disconnects the power amps from the mixer signal. Now, the amps aren't seeing any signal, and they stay nice and cool, despite still being on...

I know most people know this trick, but if you didn't...

Hope this helps.
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#257626 - 03/13/09 02:42 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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Diki good advice.

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#257627 - 03/13/09 07:35 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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Got the 10s today - home late, so I'll be taking them to tomorrow's job.

First, they are about 1 1/2 times bigger than the 8s and exactly the same look.

GREAT NEWS FOLKS - THEY HAVE (1) BUILT IN HANDLE

They also come with separate power cords!

Man, I bet you these things SMOKE. Will do a review, but no room in sight where they'll take the power.
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#257628 - 03/13/09 07:58 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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Zuki Give em hell!! Good luck!

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#257629 - 03/13/09 10:03 PM Re: Just got my new powered speakers
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Loc: Benton, LA, USA
Had a problem with one of mine tonight. I'm too tired to explain.
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