Originally posted by Kingfrog:
Perhaps you didn't READ an earlier post. I don't RECOMMEND gear.Pros know what they want. Beginners need to try different product. I get asked but I don't recommend Guitars, PA systems, Keyboards, Mikes, Interfaces...I go out of my way NOT to "recommend" I do DEMO what I think the customer wants i their price range, and let them Make the choice. I'll spend as much time with them as they need. I hold my opinion and relay facts about the product I tell them they need to make the choice for themselves.
I have been around long enough to know everyone has different ears, tastes, styles, gigs, and requirements. They set their own bar.
I can tell a lot about a customer by what they trash. Actually helps me to direct them to something they might like.
If they trash Beringer. I understand where they are professionally and won't be showing them Yamaha BRs, or Crate, but I will demo the Club series and roll out the TOTL Yorkvilles, and the Bose PAS.
I refuse to "sell" them on gear they know better without hearing it. I know they don;t HAVE to hear it to know its not for them. Pros know what they want. If they want something we don't have I send them to where they do have what they want or at least can hear some more brands.
I do believe in specifications. But quality gear generates quality specs. Cheap gear specs man nothing. I also believe in what I hear and I know what sounds good at home may not sound good at the venue. Thats why My wife mises on the speakers she will use for playback. I have had customers ask what I think of Sony MDR7506's I tell them I have been using them for 20+ years and SE560 ear buds. We don't carry Sony so I tell them where to get them at a good price. I don;t try to sell them what they don't want just because we carry it.
AS ar as having something similar to the Ebay speakers. We don't carry any powered speakers in that price range but I will send them to Best Buy if they want cheap powered speakers and thats all they can afford at the moment.
[This message has been edited by Kingfrog (edited 02-28-2009).]
WOW Kingfrog, I understand the "not getting involved" attitude....mostly from unexperienced sales people....It sure looks like you put yourself in that category..
I think you do your customers an injustice, by being what appears to me a true "snob" to relatively new equipment...
I have been in the MI business longer than you, and I have seen these attitudes..they just don't work..Customer's want confidence in the sales person, and sharing your own opinion that is substantiated, not surmised..can go a long way..
To totally dismiss a product that other people have expressed is a very good product..people with more experience than you..is just as Goldie Hawn says is "dumb dumb dumb"..
This OFD company is selling products that compete and even surpass the name brand products...sure the price is low, they are a wholesaler that decided to sell direct instead of jobbers and dealers that share your way of thinking...The price point is also because they have to go head to head with name brands.....Let's see...maybe the name brands are grossly overpriced...You have a manufacturer, and then an importer, and than a jobber, sometimes more than one jobber, and then a dealer....Think there isn't a lot of mark up?
Guys that asked ..the 802's have enough power to play a 150 person room, with plenty of head room..
Are they better than the Bose L1?...Maybe for certain situations, they may just be better....Bang for the dollar, a no brain-er may be even considered..
I will say this the L1 without a sub...give "me" the 802's...and the rest of the money can buy a lot of waffles..:
Kingfrog, I would ask your boss to order a pair of 802's...just so you can compare the Mackie 350's and those Eons too...Heck the worst it can do is sell the Mackies for you..right.
.....and than again, maybe you can be enlightened about your closed world...a product you know nothing about..but trashed..because you just know...
...Don't tell your boss , he can't sell them as a dealer..they don't want dealers..