Maybe it's just the arrangers turn to be in the gear trough, while other types are riding the wave or on the way up?

We all know that musical trends come and go. And the more things change the more they stay the same.

The arranger will come back strongly again, although what the time cycle for it will be, who knows!!

Dennis

How about a selfish viewpoint? I don't CARE because anything I get now COULD last me the rest of my career.
NAW!!!!
DonM

Don dont laugh that is a very very true staetment for sure...

I would not say that it can never happen... after all, we have seen our government and banking institutions, brokerage firms and politicians betray our trust, confidence and core beliefs... so, I suppose it is possible for arrangers to go the way of the dinosaur... but it would be a tragedy. I'd sure be lost without mine.

Dave Rice
http://www.showcaseyourmusic.com/DaveRice

Well let's look at what would happen if all arrangers suddenly disappeared.

Military bands-------------no effect
High school/college bands--no effect
School music programs------no effect
TV Studio Bands------------no effect
Amatuer/Pro Symphony Orch.-no effect
Opera----------------------no effect
Grand ol' Opera------------no effect
Coffee houses--------------no effect
Jazz groups----------------no effect
Rock groups----------------no effect
Hip Hop/Rap groups---------no effect
Country/Western------------no effect
Latin groups---------------no effect
Schlager-------------------Disaster
99% of Churches------------no effect
Talented OMB's-------------no effect
Not-so-talented OMB's------a serious thinning of the herd

Just my take on it.

chas

Oh, almost forgot. Organ trio---Blessing

Chas... post of the week ROFLMAO

And I've got to agree with DonM... If they never make another one, my gigging needs are already well taken care of. Just need a backup or two now

I agree. I can have the ideal gigging instrument in any of these...the Yamaha T2/T3/S900, although the latter works best for now.

I suspect Yamaha will carry on for many more arranger cycles, but if not, all is well at the present offerings.

Then again, I sure would miss the delights of trying out a shiny new arranger and the technological advances it would bring, so I hope new arrangers will continue to be made well into the future.

If not, I know that, at the very least, present arrangers are already powerful enough to gig with, and thankfully I divide my time between playing solo arranger/piano and working and jamming with other musicians so I feel prepared for any changes that may come along.

Ian

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Hi All

Check the population records for the western world.

Retirees (Most of which are comfortable financially) are the biggest growth area, with the younger ones falling behind; therefore the market for arrangers/organs is actually growing not shrinking.

Regards

Bill

I agree. We sell more year after year in the three or four years I have been there. Instant gratification rules the day. ANYONE can make these things sing.

The new home organ. From my understanding home organs sold for far more money than these boards even with yesterday's higher buying power dollar. Yamaha knows this all too well and is filling the Lowery hole.

Upright sales are all but dead, I have people asking for Arrangers in 5' Baby Grand shells!

Yamaha are you listening???



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I feel genuinely sorry for those who cannot reap the joys and benefits of using an arranger, especially in a solo OMB situation and are stuck with the traditional instruments like piano and organ and perhaps synthesizer.

There are several members on this forum who admit they find that arrangers are "toys" and not really "legitimate " instruments in their own right.

Too bad there are those of vision so short and egos so tall...they remind me of little boys who grow up too fast, and delight in telling the others there is no Santa Claus, or Easter Bunny...they want to appear so "adult" and so much wiser, yet secretly they wish they still had the child-like wonder of their peers.

After listening to many people play arranger, I cannot agree that just ANYONE can make them sing...in fact, few can take it to a level like we see in the hands of demonstrators, or the more adroit players we hear and see on YouTube and the arranger forums, although the "average Joe' can make acceptable and very listenable music on one, certainly enough to please himself and his friends and family.

I think arrangers have their place as evidenced by all the fun and joy as reported to me by my clients and of course, the testimonials by users here on SZ, some of them making a very good living using one.

Froggy, I thought you were familiar with the CVP-409 GP which is an a arranger in a grand piano case?

I believe Roland make similar instruments in their KR range.

Ian