Hi,

It's just a legend slapped together with another legend synth, I've alread bought the World, vintage synth, special FX and orchestral 2 card for my upcoming 5080. See this is what it makes so special. It's that you can have an adition to your keyboard rig (in my case, a triton,. Triton has very convincing soundscapes and synth and effective allround sound, but with the xv5080, i know i have an additional powerhouse that can send 8 digital channels to my vm3100pro (so no loss in sound there).. And, back at the days we were complaining that the JD'990s polyphony just sucked ... so they slapped a new jv2080like architecture on it + ofcourse not to forget the new expressive 24bits sounds in banks E F (and G on the xv5080 wich employs it's extra cosm effects).. First i was dying for the sampling option as well, but when ive heard of the poor akai implementation, i chose to hamster expansion boards first ..

Think of it, the XV-5080 (if you correctly give your musical desires some tyoughts) will get you anywhere, I make new age so i buy nice exp boards for it.. but the internal sounds are already so great but you wont have to be scared of them being dated quickly becasue there are 8 expansionboards slots + the sampling player..

I believe it's Roland's masterpiece rightnow.. ANd I think i'm going to own it untill it dies out on me.

....by the way, feefer I didn't really mean graphical wave form editing in the sampling area, i meant graphical envelope (tva/tvf/pitch) editing JD990 style, that would be cool

Also I still wonder if the XV5080 will be able to convert load these extra JV880/JD990 patches on an exp board like the vintage synth....



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Umm..... i mean fvicente, (but feefer can reed too ofcourse :-P)

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I think can the same graphical editing as the XP 80 that i use to have and i like that.
and i wil get vintage,SFX and sission on my XV 5080 and i hope that i can use my Waldorf Q stepseqencer and arpeggiator with XV 5080.

Hi Cosmic,

I'm assuming you were referring to your question:

Also I still wonder if the XV5080 will be able to convert load these extra JV880/JD990 patches on an exp board like the vintage synth....

If you're talking about an expansion board like the regular expansion boards installed on a JV-2080 or JV-1080, then the answer is yes. All of the JV expansion boards (I think there is somewhere around 16 or 17 or them now) will work with the new XV series synths.

I'm still going to kick it's wheels a little bit but I'm pretty sure I'll upgrade at some point to it. I'm not very happy with the JV-2080's midi timing and am hopeful that they fixed this on the XV-5080. Also, I already have a decent library of Roland CD-Roms and Zips that I will load into it.

I sold my S-760 to buy a E-mu E5000 Ultra so I could load more samples at a time (and more polyphony too). If I had known about the 5080 at that time, I would have held off on that decision. I'm happy with the E-mu though.

Oh well,

Fernando

Hello,

Yes: I know that they will work on the xv5080 but what I was talking about is that if you look into the paper that comes with your card, it sometimes shows that there's a patchlist for both first generation JV's and the second one (or as opposed to that.. the JD990)..

I owned a JD990 once and when I had the vintage synth board installed I had acces to 512 paches from that board because it could convert-load the JV80 ones..

Well: I hope the XV5080 can do this as well.

CD

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Hi

Cosmic Dreamer:
Are you sure the SAMPLES in the 5080 are 24-bit. I mean.... This would use quite a lot of ROM. Not to mention that the effects-processing and D/A-converters would have to be 56-bit or something. (I am not an expert in digital signal processing......) I believe that you can't process 24-bit audio with a 24-bit (or less) effects-processor successfully.

So: Are you absolutely sure that the samples are not 16-bit as before, but that synthesis and effects are 24-bit?

I have never heard of any synth that uses more than 16-bits samples. Even not the Kurzweils. The rest of the synthesis engine and DACs may be (and always is ) of higher resolution.

StigF

Hi all,

No, Roland doesn't say the samples are 24-bit, just the DAC.

This is pasted from the brochure (on-line at the 5080 site):

All three XV-Series synthesizers have powerful DSP effects onboard, incorporating independent reverb, chorus, and studio-quality multi-effects processors. The lush, ambient reverb algorithms are derived from Roland’s top-of-the-line SRV-3030 24-bit Digital Reverb Processor. The chorus section
produces a rich, thick modulation perfect for fattening up leads and pads.

The new M-FX section contains all of the JV-2080’s EFX algorithms, plus popular V-Studio effects, RSS, and unique algorithms like 3D Delay, Slicer, formant filter, Isolator, and a triplet-based Shuffle Delay. On the XV-5080, the M-FX section* is beefed up further to include COSM processing and a set of multi-effects optimized for guitar, bass, and keyboard. The 5080 even sports a master EQ per output.

Most importantly, with entire XV Series all of this massive DSP processing is heard through 24-bit D/A converters, ensuring crystal-clear sound reproduction.

Regards,
Chris

Hi,

Well to go on about the idea how pre xv5080/3080/88 sounds could be in a 24bits environment, I thought about this..

Original sounds don't have to be 24 bits to be dithered in that format, you can easily do this with soundforge/wavelab etc.. so if you follow that idea, every first and second generation jv sound could be dithered in order to be compatible with the true xv 24 bit sounds no? so this said I think it can be true that 24 bit sounds (and the upgraded 18bit sounds from older JV's) can be routed trough a 24 bits processor...

24bits......err I mean
CD

Hi all,

Back to the original intent of this thread: the XV-5080's are out there. I just got a call from bpmmusic.com, saying they got a shipment: would I like to order one? Well, duh, of course!! It should arrive later in the week.

They may have one or two more, so you might give a call if in the market for one of these babies.

Regards,
Chris