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#25839 - 06/11/00 06:39 PM XV-5080 Watch
feefer Offline
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Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Hi all,

Uh-oh: Musician's friend website lists the XV-5080 as expected in stock in mid-September (!). Not a good sign, as everyone was expecting the 5080 in stock "sometime in June", last I heard.

(It appears Roland has learned something from musicians about being fashionably late, starting the show later than announced, just to let excitement build.....)

Maybe all you other prospective buyers can use this spot as a point to compile when/where they start to hit the streets.

Thanks,

Christopher

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#25840 - 06/11/00 07:19 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
ricok987 Offline
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Registered: 04/21/00
Posts: 203
Loc: N Brunswick, NJ, US
I remember when the JV-1010 came out Roland US got very few units the first several months after the release date. I remember it took me several weeks to find a distributor that had 1 in stock. This is what you probably can expect with the 5080.

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#25841 - 06/14/00 02:49 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hello and Hummmmmmmmmmm

I just wish I could say "Your so wrong about september".. Just everyone hopes for end of june and thats the kind of info I always got from the roland persons at the frankfurter musik messe but also on the phone with Roland BNL.. Well its true that first deliveries are going to be rather ... hard to come by. Some Roland distribution points (like the one here in belgium) will get the first shipment by plain instead of regular boat shipment because the XV5080 is overdue for a month already. If it would come by boat, it would even be a month extra wait

Also I try to redeem myself (and I hope i'm right on this one) that about the september release I have something to say:. Maybe the JV1010 took so slow because it's a spin-off from the 1080/2080, a nice addition for computer musicians who also long for JV power.

Roland praises the XV5080 to the star, so I dont really think they can permit a delayed delay on a release date no?

Well , knowing that I can't be 100% sure of what I say here, I join the hoping club,

CD
http://www.5080land.cjb.net

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#25842 - 07/08/00 01:25 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
feefer Offline
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Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Hello all,

According to Cosmic Dreamer's site, the 5080 is starting to roll off the production line. I've been told to expect ETA of end of July.

Best price I've heard is $1,700 (including shipping); I'll tell where, if anyone asks.

Remember: post here when you see 'em hit the streets.

Chris

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#25843 - 07/13/00 09:24 AM Re: XV-5080 Watch
fvicente Offline
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Registered: 01/25/99
Posts: 149
Loc: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Hi,

I was at my dealer yesterday and saw the XV-5080 in the metal (as opposed to flesh). He does not have any stock but the Roland rep was in the store demo-ing it to store employees. I was told by the rep that the XV-5080 should be in my dealer's store next week sometime. For the first few months, it will ship in limited quantities. Expect them to be readily available in September.

While it contains many of the sounds from the JV-2080, it certainly sounds quite a bit better. I did not do an exhaustive listening test though as the rep was in there for only a half an hour or so while I was there.

I will probably be looking at selling my JV-2080 in September to pick up one of these babies. I have an extensive Roland sample library and this can take the place of 2 modules for me (a sampler and a synth). The beauty of this thing is that you can buy a 128 MB smart media card for it and load a 128 MB bank without connecting it to a CD Rom or hard drive.

I was a little disappointed in the piano 64 MB card. The rep had both the piano and the drum card installed in it. Let me qualify my disappointment though. The piano card really sounds fantastic if you're doing classical or mellow music. It lacks the bite and brightness IMHO for onstage rock or pop styles. It's really too bad. I would have preferred two 32 MB pianos on the card - a classical, mellow piano and a brighter (a-la Yamaha) piano sound. I may buy the card anyway and brighten it up a touch with some internal fx for onstage.

After all of the talk about the drum card, it also did not blow me away as I thought it would. Maybe it was the listening environment. While they were expressive and weren't bad, they didn't have that punch, in-your-face type of sound I look for in drums. I'll be listening again though when they are in stock.

So, the recap: Don't expect lots of these units to be around and available at stores for a month or two but you should see some by the end of the month for sure.

Fernando

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#25844 - 07/18/00 01:19 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
Cosmic Dreamer Offline
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Registered: 05/20/00
Posts: 70
Loc: Hasselt, Limburg, Belgium
Hi,

Roland bnl told me that in a first phase they are going to "supply" europe with a demo device, We are lucky to be Roland's main supplier for our province in belgium and we get the fruits from that

1 xv5080 (or maybe 2) for us in august.... snif.... At least i'm able to go and test the sampleplayer section and graphical editing (if any)... at the roland branch next week )

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#25845 - 07/18/00 02:08 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
fvicente Offline
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Registered: 01/25/99
Posts: 149
Loc: Port Moody, BC, Canada
Hi,

You may be disappointed. There is no graphical waveform editing in the 5080. The Roland rep I spoke with said that they may make it available in the future but for now it is not capable of doing this. I believe that there is very little sample editing features there. If I recall correctly, I think that he said the 5080 software would allow you to change loop points and sample start but that's about it.

HTH,
Fernando

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#25846 - 07/18/00 03:26 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
feefer Offline
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Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Hi all,

Let's just hope the delay isn't due to the kinds of problems the VP-9000 apparently has been plagued with (as mentioned in another thread): if it means delaying the release to work out bugs vs. rushing release, I say Roland should work them out.

I'm hoping this is an unlikely reason, since the XV is largely an extension of an existing product line (JV or XV-3080), and not a completely new product (like the VP).

Regards,
Chris

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#25847 - 07/18/00 04:33 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
YMH Offline
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Registered: 06/14/00
Posts: 40
Loc: Cannada
Hello,
Since 5080 doesn't have too much improvement over 3080(sample playback ONLY, no waveform editing...), why are you guys still expecting 5080 so much??? Please tell me why... cause I'm planing to buy either 3080 or 5080...
THANKX!!!


[This message has been edited by YMH (edited 07-18-2000).]

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#25848 - 07/18/00 07:06 PM Re: XV-5080 Watch
feefer Offline
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Registered: 05/14/00
Posts: 84
Loc: XV-5080
Quote:
Originally posted by YMH:
Hello,

Since 5080 doesn't have too much improvement over 3080 (sample playback ONLY, no waveform editing...), why are you guys still expecting 5080 so much??? Please tell me why... cause I'm planing to buy either 3080 or 5080...
THANKX!!!


Hi YMH,

Cosmicdreamer's site has a good comparison of the two units:
http://www.5080land.com

A new site also devoted to the XV series also has a nice section comparing the 5080 to other synths in the class:
http://lakewoodsoftware.com/XV-5080/

The main difference for me is the increased capacity for cards, as well as the COSM amp-modeling effects.

Regards,
Chris

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