Oh, and anyone that starts a thread off about the Bose with "NOT LOOKING TO START A DEBATE, BUT:" on this forum has got to be kidding, right?

Diki my camp is both ....I do it all baby....no reason 2 good powered 15"s can't handle anything...1 or 2 units...& in an extremme venuse 1 or 2 subs added....no prob.

Well, I'd like to see those 15" and sub systems do 'quiet from front to back' like the Bose do...

To get a conventional system up to listening levels in the back of the room, those in front of the stack HAVE to have it quite a bit louder. That's the Bose's one and only strength, IMO.

If I needed that often, I MIGHT consider a pair... If I hit the lottery, that is

To be honest, most of the places that want background levels evenly distributed in my area have house systems that you jack into, though.

Well, Diki, I had good intentions ... ... Actually, I was happy to have had the opportunity to play through the Bose and wanted to share it ...
I would like to have an occasion to use the same system in a 'cranked up' situation to really test it out ... also in retrospect, I am disappointed I did not have the opportunity to really 'check out' the system - see the 'workings', find out how EG was set, etc. - ... maybe there will be a next time ...
And I agree with you about the front to back sound ... I know I would not have had the volume that low 'on stage' with ANY of my other gear and get the necessary volume in the far end ...
t.

Well, I for one would not use them (Bose) in my restaurant gigs, as I don't want to fill room with sound...some people just want to dine in a quieter environment, so they'll sit away from the speakers.

Advantage:conventional system.

For a concert hall(or church)you want full even coverage so that each listener hears the same in all parts.

Advantage: Bose...especially in stereo.

I have a short throw speaker system already for the former situation....bought and paid for many years ago....now I want to be able to handle the latter type of gig, so I'll invest in the Bose.

After hearing the quality (and coverage) of the sound I think they are well worth the investment.

For the very few times I would need a more powerful conventional system for the first scenario, I would rent one.

Ian

Slightly OT question to Tony:

I continually hear of Restaurant gigs on this board. I guess because I'm not a solo (we're a duo) and not background music (and there's nothing at all bad about actually BEING background music btw), I (we) have had almost zero opportunities to play Restaurant gigs.

Are they plentiful in the U.S.?
Do many people make a living from them?

Actually can I ask a wider question to the Synthzone members (& Tony).

Who are the major employers in the U.S. in regards to Live Music - of the kind to be found on these boards?

In Australia we have:

RSLs (The Returned & Servicemen League) basically Clubs that host Bar/Dining/Poker Machines with Lounge facilities.

LEAGUES CLUBS (of the Football kind - think Grid Iron)

BOWLS CLUBS (Think ten pin Bowling on Grass with no Pins, just balls-!).

GOLF CLUBS.

5 STAR HOTELS.

PUBS.

(That's the gist of the major regular employers for local Covers acts in Australia - more or less.)


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hellboy
I will try to answer in the same order...

Restaurant gigs ... there used to be FAR more available, and it's not just the current economy that caused the decline, it has been happening over the years ...
I think it is very difficult to 'make a living' just playing restaurant gigs ... In the Rhode Island area, depending on the venue, one might make $100 to $150 a night during the week $150 to $200 a night on weekends ...
One peculiar thing I am noticing is that some of the 'high end' restaurants are discontinuing live music, but I see live music showing up in 'pizza parlors' and other small type restaurants... One place near me is a seafood store with a small dining area ... they now have live acoustic music on Saturdays ...

Live music employers run the gamut from Senior Centers to nursing homes to Elks, Moose, etc. clubs, to bar/restaurants with lounges that have a small dance floors, to hotels, to casino's etc., etc., etc., ... I will let some of the others here tell you what types of venues they play ...

We have similar 'clubs' or 'associations' here in the US as well...

By the way, "bowling on grass, no pins, just balls" sounds like "bocce" to me ...

t.



[This message has been edited by tony mads usa (edited 03-04-2009).]

Thanks Tony.

Ha! Yes you're spot on (pretty much) about Bocce and Bowls being similar.

We played a Game just a few weeks ago because my Wife (and of course her family, who we played with) are/is Sicilian......