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#258691 - 03/03/09 06:58 AM Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Pretty much every variation seems to be available.
http://www.bohm-organs.co.uk/produkte/silverbird.pdf

Bill
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#258692 - 03/03/09 07:22 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Bill,
Might be an EXPENSIVE option if lived in Germany.
I have seen the ad beofre...but none around my neck of the woods.

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#258693 - 03/03/09 07:25 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Geez..., I guess that Silverbird has some great and strong wings because they've been flying that same model for a LONG TIME now. Just curiuos...., how up to date with the current times are these models? How are the styles and patches? Will these things generate the same comments as the Wersi in the preset styles and sound catergory....., What's the PRICE?
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#258694 - 03/03/09 07:53 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Bohm instruments continue to be upgraded via plug-in hardware modules, (As opposed to software like Wersi or Lionstracs) so although they look the same as 10 years ago (Or more) the hardware has been updated significantly.

Some of Bohms larger organs introduced in 1984 can also be upgraded to the latest spec. (Most owners have slowly upgraded them over time)

Sounds and demos, well its base is Europe so all follow the Euro sound,, and until it gets over to the US in large enough numbers, then like Wersi it will not be shown at its best, for what the US market looks for.

Prices (Although not relevant to the question) are always negotiable.

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#258695 - 03/03/09 08:00 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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When I see the term "negotiable" applied to the sale of a keyboard..., it to me is a RED FLAG because buying a keyboard shouldn't be such a hassle in terms of price and reduced to the same way you buy a used or new car. It's a bloody keyboard not a 4 door sedan Even though many of these types of organs/arrangers sell for the price of a 4 door sedan.



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#258696 - 03/03/09 08:13 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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#258697 - 03/03/09 10:34 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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I am always disinclined to take a product seriously where there aren't any sound demos on the site. I couldn't find any, anyway. Can someone point me to where they are?
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#258698 - 03/03/09 11:32 AM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Hi Squeak

I take your point, but most boards from the big 3 have limited options, whereas the Bohm (And most other German instruments) have multiple options, depending on the type of sound you want, what you want to use it for, (Home, Gigging etc) etc.

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#258699 - 03/03/09 12:26 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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#258700 - 03/03/09 12:29 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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The sad thing though Bill is that the US is an untapped market for arrangers. All it takes is for one of these high end companies like Wersi and Bohm to get their team in check and produce a good western model. We may be on hard financial times.., but I'm willing to bet there's a large number of cats over here that would drop a few bills on something like a Bohm if the maker addressed the needs of the western market.

We keep hearing all the time that the US isn't an arranger market. Truth is WE ARE.., problem is that old school mentallity from these arranger makers. All it takes is for one company to do it.., do it right.., and the others will follow. The phrase "build it and they will come" seems appropriate. They'd make a hell of a tax right-off for the performing musician.



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#258701 - 03/03/09 12:36 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Before we drift off topic too much, I was wondering if there was any other board out there that has more flexible and physical combinations of options.

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Bill
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#258702 - 03/03/09 12:47 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Uhhh...., MediaStation comes to mind. You're trying to get someone to say Wersi aint ya
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#258703 - 03/03/09 12:55 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Wersi and Mediastation doesn’t even come close, the best they can manage is an additional 76 note keybed, Hammer action keybed and Pedals.

The Bohm Silverbird has pretty much all the combinations you can think of.

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Bill
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#258704 - 03/03/09 01:16 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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I know Bill.., just jerkin your chain bud I do agree with you that these models do offer a lot to the buyer with options.
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#258705 - 03/03/09 02:55 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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The system is less open then the MS or even the wersi..... Its an oldfashioned concept...
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#258706 - 03/03/09 02:57 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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I see it has a V6 sound engine in it.. For those prices they should have given it a V8 eh?

All the best,
Mike
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#258707 - 03/03/09 03:05 PM Re: Is this the most flexible keyboard/organ around
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Mike just because its expensive is no reason not to buy one

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