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#259401 - 03/11/09 07:55 PM
Re: AUDYA Release Date...mid-March ?
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#259404 - 03/11/09 08:38 PM
Re: AUDYA Release Date...mid-March ?
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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PA2Xpro may not have Mega voices, but it does have the well integrated Guitar Mode for the style section. But yes, the new Guitar NTT's in the T3 and the Mega voices are what DOES make the T3 stand out. I know as of now the SA is RH only, but I wouldn't be surprised to see that come soon to the styles. But the realism of strumming and picking parts, electric guitar and bass from the style section itself makes the styles of the T3 really 'pop'! For a translation to be as good (or better) than the original, it REALLY needs these, IMO... As to integration.... Well, if the MS 'integrated' a great arranger with all that it currently has, it would be a world beating product, no doubt (as an arranger, that is). Currently, it only integrates the ENGINE for a great arranger. And leaves all the rest of the work to you. The vast majority of the arranger market (including those that DO buy arrangers like the T3 in this price range) want and need at least as good styles provided that they pay for in their 'closed' arrangers. Integrate THOSE, and now you've really got something to get excited about.
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#259405 - 03/11/09 09:02 PM
Re: AUDYA Release Date...mid-March ?
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Registered: 05/13/08
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Loc: Staten Island, NYC
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Originally posted by Diki: (still going off half-cocked BEFORE you even get the thing, eh? ).I've been observing MS for long time, at least 3 years, way before i ever heard or touched Ketron, by now i know verywell what it can do, read the posts again, it was if it was an Arranger and i responded to that, not how it sounds or the functions, i dont know about it yet. Originally posted by Diki: BTW, you know ANYONE with a computer setup that can equal a TOTL arranger for functionality, sound and style variation? Because, if that's what the MS is, the bar isn't really that high, is it? AFAIK, no-one for quite a while (if at all) has ever posted a STYLE demo on SZ that was all done in software that even came CLOSE to a T3 or PA2Xpro. I would taake a challenge on any existing arranger, including MS and AUDYA with my comp setup, especially sound quality wise. The whole PA2X ROM is less then 200MB maybe and i use a Piano which only one key has a size of probably 400MB...calculate...dont say that dont matter, you are smart and experienced enough to know that it matters a lot, especially on my setup with 32GB RAM. Originally posted by Diki: The range of musics that arrangers are called upon to perform is HUGE... Isnt that the point of the MS being so open? Reread yourself.
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#259406 - 03/11/09 09:37 PM
Re: AUDYA Release Date...mid-March ?
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Registered: 04/25/05
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Loc: NW Florida
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Originally posted by Nedim:
I've been observing MS for long time, at least 3 years, way before i ever heard or touched Ketron, by now i know very well what it can do, read the posts again, it was if it was an Arranger and i responded to that, not how it sounds or the functions, i dont know about it yet. Me too (been hearing ABOUT it for three years or so)... Mind you, I am not so brave as you to buy one if I don't know about the functions or how it sounds, yet But maybe that comes from just being a customer, and not working where I can get one for cost... Originally posted by Nedim:
I would take a challenge on any existing arranger, including MS and AUDYA with my comp setup, especially sound quality wise. The whole PA2X ROM is less then 200MB maybe and i use a Piano which only one key has a size of probably 400MB...calculate...dont say that dont matter, you are smart and experienced enough to know that it matters a lot, especially on my setup with 32GB RAM. I am also smart enough and experienced enough to know that the quality of the sound is not the ONLY thing worth caring about in an arranger. Quality styles, quality integration of OS and live performing needs (Music Finder, lyrics displays, all that kind of thing), and a well balanced sound set and style set that allows you to be creative on the fly, without having to worry about sound volume and EQ balance differences are also primary considerations, at least if you are playing live. In the studio, I already use VSTi's, and am intimately familiar with them. But also I have ears to the point where I can tell diminishing returns in a live situation. For me at least, 'good enough' IS good enough! If a closed arranger with great styles and sounds gets the job done to everyone's satisfaction, then sacrificing style selection and ease of use to get a piano that is a BIT better in a live situation than what I already have doesn't make sense to me. Yes, if I didn't already have a VSTi setup, didn't need a boatload of great styles to gig, and had all the time in the world to fiddle with something (and could get it at cost or so), the MS would be a great choice. I don't... Did you ever gig with your software rig? Got some recordings? I'd love (seriously, I'm not just bating you) to hear how well it came out. I guess I should be from Missouri... I'm a 'show me' kind of guy Just SAYING it sounded killer doesn't do it for me. But play me some music, tell me about how well it worked for you live, and I'm all ears...
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