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#259475 - 03/14/09 01:41 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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Things are waaaaayyyyyyy more complicated then us in here think, about any music, not just Balkan or Western.
Not necesarilly the Big3 have the better styles then any other brand, there is many more arrangers.
The Alpha arranger thats coming out its gonna beat the hell out of anything existing for now including
MS and AUDYA but technically speaking, would that make it a better arranger for you or me? NO!
Actually it is out but it'll be harder for you guys to get more info on that, hard to find in English.
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#259476 - 03/14/09 01:44 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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http://www.yumidi.com/forum/aagaton-alpha-aranzer-uskoro-u-prodaji-t13116.html

They have many other products, mostly for Balkan and stuff such as Motif and Fantom in Software.
The Alpha arranger is different, is not for Balkan only and its packed with everything.
But hard to find info in english.
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#259477 - 03/14/09 01:45 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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#259478 - 03/14/09 02:04 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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Don't want info. I want demos. I don't read a keyboard. I PLAY it.

I want to hear what it sounds like, and THEN, if it sounds great, I'll read about it. Real music, done by real people on a real arranger is the only thing that impresses me. I never wet my pants reading about software or some 24 bit converter, but a great piece of music, a keyboard that raises the bar for realism, that will wake my jaded ears up, every time...

And talk about short attention span theater... You haven't got either your MS or your Audya yet, and here you are salivating over the NEXT completely unproven product...

Why not find out (and demonstrate) whether either of these pieces live up to the hype before you run off after yet another software wannabe...?
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#259479 - 03/14/09 03:11 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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What i needed and what i was expecting i alreayd found out and it fits my needs.
There is no need for me to experience and research more, AUDYA already had, MS will test soon.
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#259480 - 03/14/09 07:06 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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I cannot help it, but to me all this sounds like a "deaf dialog".

Diki, you're right about demos. I read alot of information about all of these instruments, but somehow is hard to find a good demo, well, any demo in fact.
I'd also like to hear something amazing (Audya's audio guitar and drums are pretty close) and than continue reading about it. The fact that MS seems to be a great keyboard from it's specs, really does not replace for a simple single well-recorded demo.
Hm?
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#259481 - 03/14/09 05:29 PM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
Don't want info. I want demos. I don't read a keyboard. I PLAY it. I want to hear what it sounds like, and THEN, if it sounds great, I'll read about it. Real music, done by real people on a real arranger is the only thing that impresses me.


You said it. You don't have to to hunt hard for a G70 or E80 demo online. But try finding a Wersi or MS one.

Speaks volumes.

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#259482 - 03/15/09 05:39 AM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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Quote:
Originally posted by Seamaster:
You said it. You don't have to to hunt hard for a G70 or E80 demo online. But try finding a Wersi or MS one.

Speaks volumes.


You haven’t looked very hard then. (Concentrate on European sites)

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#259483 - 03/15/09 12:43 PM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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So he hasn't looked very hard..key words "very hard"..you must look hard to find demos!

Again,'why' must one have to look when another ALREADY knows the laboured location of the demos?sneaky!

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#259484 - 03/15/09 02:56 PM Re: Reviews terminated and deleted
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Dennis, Dennis.. Australia, correct? Once an Aussie always an Aussie right Dennis? Tell me, do all Australians have a propensity to get in a huff and vamoose like you're doing Dennis? Nah, can't be mate. Nigel is still plugging away here at the Zone (although I've heard from his own lips that he's thought about leaving too.. )

You know Dennis, the good book says: "woe unto you when all men speak well of you", so trying to skip town to escape a little criticism from a few dastardly folks like Diki, etc. - is no real reason to skip town at all in my humble opinion. In other words, it comes with the territory and especially here at the Zone as you've come to realize firsthand. But criticism can actually make you stronger if you let it.

Don't run from it though mate. Because in reality, if you try to escape from it from here you will just run up against it somewhere else, right? At least here you know what you're up against. Sure we get upset, sure we're picky and we get obnoxious once in a while. >> One look at some of Diki's responses (and a recent pic he posted) tells you right away he's trouble.. But he means no real harm. None of us do in my opinion. Except maybe Ian perhaps. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] LOL.. Sorry Ian, couldn't resist. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif[/img] And I've been known to go ballistic once in awhile too. >> Not that I wasn't provoked or anything. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] I like to call it righteous indignation but others may disagree I'm sure. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/wink.gif[/img]

I say all of that to say this my friend. You've been a blessing to us here on the Zone with all of your insight, knowledge and quite frankly, all the support and kindness you've shown to other synthzone members during your time here. It will be sad to see you go if indeed that is ultimately what you've decided to do. [img]http://smileys.on-my-web.com/repository/Sad/sad-051.gif[/img] I do hope you reconsider though. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif[/img]

And the same goes for Domenick of Lionstracs. If you guys need to take a breather then by all means do so. But when the anger subsides (if it subsides [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] lol..) then know that you always have a place here at the Zone where you can call home - and get bombarded by a few stray IED's on occasion as well. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] But we're all men - and a few ladies here too as well of course. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/smile.gif[/img] What's a little ribbing and a few knives to the back eh? [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/biggrin.gif[/img] What doesn't kill us only tends to make us stronger, right? [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/cool.gif[/img] Hope to hear from you soon Dennis. If not, then au revoir! It's been a pleasure to have known you. Same goes for Domenick too. [img]http://www.synthzone.com/ubbs/cool.gif[/img]

All the best,
Mike

[This message has been edited by keybplayer (edited 03-15-2009).]
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