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#262404 - 05/02/09 02:47 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 1675
Loc: Milford, CT, USA
I've been playing it all day, there is almost too much to type, i might do a You tube video about some stuff.

If you guys want just call me at the store, and I'll discuss everything I can with out.

It must be pretty amazing, I managed to sell 2 of them without having any stock yet. paid in full waiting for delivery



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#262405 - 05/02/09 03:23 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
George Kaye Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
Posts: 3305
Loc: Reseda, California USA
And here on the West Coast, we have nothing to try or sell! That's what upsets me about the way CMC is conducting their business!
Product should have gone only to dealers around the country to at least allow those to try and place advance orders.


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#262406 - 05/02/09 03:30 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
frankieve Offline
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Registered: 11/24/99
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Loc: Milford, CT, USA
I did place my order over 2 years ago.

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#262407 - 05/02/09 04:31 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by DanO1:
From Dale Carnegie: Fundamental Techniques in Handling People

Don't criticize, condemn or complain.


And yet, here you are...

How's that beam in your eye?
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#262408 - 05/02/09 04:40 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
DanO1 Offline
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Registered: 01/31/01
Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
Quote:
Originally posted by Diki:
And yet, here you are...

How's that beam in your eye?


ya know, your right. I made an edit to my post realizing I did not follow the rule.

I guess I am frustrated by your negativity of Audya. I will ignore everything you have too say and keep smiling.
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#262409 - 05/02/09 04:52 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
ianmcnll Offline
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
Quote:
Originally posted by Fran Carango:
You do know...Dale died in 1955....



Gee, buddy, I didn't even know he was sick....sorry for your loss.

Wasn't that about the time they started workin' on the Audya?
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#262410 - 05/02/09 04:55 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Hmmmmm.....

'Suck up to people, and they will like you'. Pretty f*cking profound, there, Dale!

Personally, I neither come here to 'handle' people, nor to have them like me. I just like the frank and open exchange of views and opinions about arrangers and music in general. And when someone disagrees with me, it has no bearing on whether I like them or not. They are as entitled to their opinion as I am to mine.

If, on the other hand, they fail to manage to disagree with me without plain outright insulting me, that's different. Those so ignorant they can't tell the difference between an insult and an argument don't honestly deserve any respect.

But anyway, everyone is free to suck up to me if they think it will change my attitude

Didn't think so...
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#262411 - 05/02/09 05:00 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by DanO1:
ya know, your right. I made an edit to my post realizing I did not follow the rule.

I guess I am frustrated by your negativity of Audya. I will ignore everything you have too say and keep smiling.



So you are supposed to ignore everybody you don't agree with? That's the Carnegie approach? LOL

I guess it's a good thing that MOST of us here don't follow that principle, or it would be a VERY quiet place in here. Maybe this is what has happened to the US since the fifties... We have forgotten that it is possible to disagree with someone, and yet still keep a civil dialog going. Apparently, either an outright nasty attack, or sullen silence is all we are capable of, any more...
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#262412 - 05/02/09 05:35 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
DanO1 Offline
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Posts: 3602
Loc: Maryland
Your right Diki. I take back everything I said and please accept my apology.
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#262413 - 05/02/09 06:02 PM Re: Audya has landed (finally...)
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14268
Loc: NW Florida
Now THAT'S Dale Carnegie in action...

Seriously, Dan, I don't disrespect you for not agreeing with me. It's the exchange of ideas and viewpoints that matters. I also feel that discussing negative points about an arranger (go to Roland-arranger.com, and on our feature wishlist forum you will see I am FAR more critical of my G70 than I have ever been of the Audya - familiarity only helps spot things that can be improved) is NOT being 'negative'...

It's an honest attempt to articulate what could be BETTER on these musical tools, in a (perhaps vain ) effort to show the manufacturers and representatives that surf here what we as users really NEED in an arranger. Plus, don;t get me wrong. I have posted about how much I like the basic SOUND of the Audya, but I simply feel that it's core technology, the use of audio loops instead of MIDI, is a bit premature at our current level of technology.

IF... the guitar loops were capable of being streamed as per the initial announcements, IF they had been able to stream basslines, percussion lines, comping, all simultaneously, IF it was easy to import from other libraries to add to these phrase libraries, IF all the basic chord choices were covered, then yes, the Audya would indeed be worth the price it is going for. And if it were priced, in its' current semi-crippled state (vis a vis this feature) about the same as other TOTL closed arrangers, I would be VERY interested in getting one.

I simply feel that, as is, it is only a half step towards where it needs to be to be a usable musical tool for those OTHER than content with the ROM styles. Another generation or two of CPU and data buss technology needs to be available before it fulfills it's promise.

Now, if that is being negative, I'm sorry. Personally, I feel I am being positive about the future, but unsatisfied with the present. A push, perhaps?

Anyway, personally, I don't feel anger at ANYONE for simply disagreeing with me, and I hope that the Audya works out as successfully for you as you hope. Wouldn't have it any other way. But I have a feeling that it will work out FAR more successfully for you (and me!) when those issues I have commented on have been addressed...

In the meantime, my humble four year old $3500 (or sub-$2000 used) arranger is still wow-ing audiences and other musicians alike, and I can afford to wait patiently until the Audya's technology DOES mature and become a practical reality. And I wait with anticipation, to hear how well the Audya sounds in the hands of those willing to jump in and pay a new level of price for fledgling technology. I am sure it WILL be a new level of realism (Ketron's audio demos are spectacular), but until it is a bit more 'open' for those of us with different musical needs to the ROM styles, I think I can wait.

And in the meantime, perhaps Audya are looking into addressing some of our (not just mine!) concerns and criticisms. And that will benefit ALL...

Surely that is a positive thing?
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