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#263113 - 05/13/09 10:31 AM
Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Registered: 07/27/05
Posts: 10606
Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Bill in Dayton: I can't begin to relate to that. Boredom? All due respect, I've never heard your work but if you really meant what you said, then its quite possible its as much of a performer issue than anything else.
Yes, Bill, I meant what I said ...the sound of one Bose is boring...one dimensional...perhaps it is a fine sound for performers who aren't concerned about sounding at their best...perhaps not. All I know is my S900 and Tyros3 sound much better with two systems. Just because the Bose sounds boring to me, doesn't mean I deserve a veiled insult(I would have thought you were better than that) but apart from that, I really can't comment on the level of excitement my own playing generates, but it certainly has been paying the bills rather well these past 43 years, so I must be doing something right. Ian
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#263114 - 05/13/09 10:44 AM
Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Bill in Dayton: I will grant you that 2 L1's run in stereo produce an awesome sound with an above average stereo field, but IMO, most would say that's beyond the point of diminishing returns. That's why I use them, Bill...it matters to me that I sound at my very best when I perform...the cost over time is negligible since they will pay for themselves...I can't see anyone using them at home, or for one gig a month, perhaps, but I do feel two systems are well worth the huge increase in sound quality if you are fussy about the sound, like I am. They aren't heavy...it just takes more time to set up, and maybe another trip to the car...no big deal. Ian
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#263118 - 05/13/09 01:30 PM
Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Registered: 05/26/99
Posts: 9673
Loc: Levittown, Pa, USA
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Originally posted by ianmcnll: Kingfog,
It's quite obvious you know very little about live playing, even less about the difference between stereo and mono, and even less again about how well I perform. Your insults tell me much more about your own insecurities than the level of my talent.
Did you all of a sudden get this insecure, or did it start way back when you were a little tadpole?
Ian Ian, you bug me sometimes too...but I think you nailed it...Kingfrog comes across just as you described..  And stereo does make a positive difference..Whenever possible..I want stereo..  BTW: I can't recall the link, but I read an interesting article about the stereo projection a few months ago...and the design of the Bose is all wrong according to these sound experts...The problem is the sound is projected in a wide disbursement,,,like throwing a stone in a pond ..the ripples will flow out from the center...now throw two stones a distance apart..Two ripple groups until they make contact with each other's ripples...This is a problem with the sound projection...Bose knows this..and you won't see them suggesting stereo with two Bose L1's
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#263120 - 05/13/09 01:44 PM
Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Registered: 07/27/05
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Loc: Cape Breton Island, Canada
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Originally posted by Fran Carango: and the design of the Bose is all wrong according to these sound experts...The problem is the sound is projected in a wide disbursement,,,like throwing a stone in a pond ..the ripples will flow out from the center...now throw two stones a distance apart..Two ripple groups until they make contact with each other's ripples...This is a problem with the sound projection...Bose knows this..and you won't see them suggesting stereo with two Bose L1's
I see your point Fran, and it does make sense as you describe, but for some reason I don't get those results. Believe me, if they didn't work properly in stereo, I wouldn't have them. If you read any of my old posts about the Bose as a single system, you would see how critical I was of it's one dimensional mono sound, so being convinced about two of them was a stretch....but they do sound terrific. Maybe it is the way Yamaha's stereo imaging is set up...I don't know, but we did try a Roland G-1000 with it and it sounded great. I do know that several bands in my area use multiple Bose systems...one for each performer, with up to five on the stage, and they have no issues with the sound either. I don't completely understand the science behind it, but I don't need to as long as it works for me. I've played a midi file, and walked around the room, and I can hear the difference between when I use one, and then two, and it is a marked difference. I'm glad I spent the loot on it...it works perfect for my style of play, so I'm happy, and my audience is as well. Ian BTW...here's something interesting about Bose in stereo.. http://blog.mp3backingtrax.com/articles/bose-l1-in-300-400-seat-venues/ [This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 05-13-2009).]
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