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#263123 - 05/13/09 01:00 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Originally posted by Dnj:
does all this presumably great sound improve the throwers playing?


Now Donny, you know darn well the better your arranger sounds, the more you enjoy playing, and the more you enjoy playing, that feeling gets transmitted to the audience.

We sell a feeling when we play.

Ian
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#263124 - 05/13/09 01:12 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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The best sound system or instrument will NOT magically make the player better although many think so buy reading some of these posts of course you'll never hear anyone......but you talent can never be covered up & eventually be exposed to the audience one way or another. Become a really good player or /singer first then worry about the sound system. Now if you'll excuse me I'm off to dinner with friends.

ciao

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#263125 - 05/13/09 01:39 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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This shows how to set up two L1 in stereo...see last two diagrams at bottom of page.

http://toonz.ca/bose/wiki/index.php?title=Connections_/_DJ_VJ_Computer_to_Model_I
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#263126 - 05/13/09 02:07 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Originally posted by Fran Carango:
...and the design of the Bose is all wrong according to these sound experts.


All wrong according to what? We need a point of reference.

Bose wanted to build a line array and they succeeded. Line array speakers use multiple drivers to increase acoustic efficiency and power handling ability. The physical span of the array produces a more life-like sound by adding height to a listening experience often missing with more conventional loudspeakers.

Here's a link to click on if you have the time:

http://www.higherfi.com/spkrlist/speakerlist.htm

A nice collection of some of the most expensive speakers available. Look down the list and count how many line array configs you see.

I know the original topic was PA speakers and I'm not trying to deviate. My point is...the line array speaker system is a bonafide solution used extensively by speaker manufacturers.

I don't get what those experts mean when they say, "It's all wrong."


-mike the confused

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#263127 - 05/13/09 02:12 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Here's another thought to consider....

Let's take an orchestra. We could have up to 100 different sound producing, wave generating, molecule moving, man-made music devices all throwing their "rocks" into the "water".

How come what we hear is a thing a beauty?


-mike

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#263128 - 05/13/09 02:21 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Good posts, Mike the Confused

I understand that if two identical mono signal are fed one each into two Bose L1, and the speakers are very close together, there may be some phase cancellation.

Using the left and right stereo outs of a keyboard, or a mixer does not cause any phase cancellation, and gives excellent results.

It sounds terrific at every point in the room.

Ian
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#263129 - 05/13/09 04:12 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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I don’t see the Bose being worth 2500+ extra base, etc. last time I spent $2500 for one speaker, they were EAW's and they are in a different world than bose. I did demo them already at some local music stores but I really don’t find them practical for my uses. Also the types of gigs I do are large halls with 200-400 people and I can't imagine how many bose I would need to fill the room.
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#263130 - 05/13/09 05:27 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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I see EAW uses the line array principle like Bose.

Ian

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 05-13-2009).]
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#263131 - 05/13/09 05:54 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
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Originally posted by ianmcnll:
I see EAW uses the line array principle like Bose.

Ian

[This message has been edited by ianmcnll (edited 05-13-2009).]



Its actually the other way around, EAW has been using line array systems for many years now.
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#263132 - 05/13/09 07:22 PM Re: Bose compact vs Podium 802's vs Logitech Z5500
ianmcnll Offline
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Originally posted by mc:

Its actually the other way around, EAW has been using line array systems for many years now.


Yep...they both make awesome speakers.
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